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LisaNtn

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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 2:00:41 PM

So I use your sight but was not a member till I went out of my way to go to a station this morning due to their price and they were out of gas. So I became a member so I could post that this station was out of gas and then realized there is no way to enter that information...at least that I'm aware of. That might be a good thing to be able to enter. Might save others from driving out of their way for cheaper gas that ends up being sold out!
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Adogg3
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 8:48:00 AM

it wouldn't be a bad idea to have some kinda of warning system so others would know. Tho I used to work at a gas station as a kid and it prob on avg happened about four times a year. most times do to large snowstorms and people would freak out and buy a ton of gas. then the truck could not get there till the storm was over. But cheap prices will do that too time to time.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 5:22:59 AM


This problem and a couple of others would be solved, if not perfectly, by making the comments on thhe station price display "sticky" so the comment remains after a price update unless it is deleted when prices are updated.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 7:48:04 AM

ozdehill reported.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 7:12:18 AM

Wrong forum there ozdehill....reported
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BarneyDog
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 9:32:40 PM

I also agree
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hnofer17
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 12:41:26 AM

I agree
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 6:17:58 PM

A station could have a refilling load delayed by the supplier.
A station with financial problems could have refilling loads prevented.
A station could have a power problem so the pumps don't work.
A station could have a contamination problem that must be fixed before selling more of a fuel/grade.
A station could have a leak requiring that repairs be made before selling more of a fuel/grade.

Those are some reasons that occur to me; there may be more.
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krellu74
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 12:55:00 PM

how can a station be out of gas?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:21:03 PM

Another shinning example of why new members should not be allowed to start topics.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:35:22 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if LisaNtn, the member who started this topic, commented on the responses provided by various members? She wrote, in the original post, that she became a member so she could post that this station was out of gas...

Well, she started a topic on it, never identified the gas station of concern, and, for that matter, never made another contribution to this website, neither acknowledging anyone's comments, nor posting a gas price for any gas station.

You have to wonder how big a concern or how big an issue this was with her, if it doesn't warrant even a minimal participation in this website site. But, that's just my opinion.

Considering that she's apparently not interested in the topic she started, and "out of gas" is being discussed in other threads, perhaps this specific topic can be locked as no longer being pertinent.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:58:03 AM

>"I'm confused about what you were confused about. Are you referring to where I said that scoutmaster's extended version of GoGoGoodyear's idea wouldn't work?"

Actually I think I was confused about the words that you posted from GoGo; so yeah. I agree with you... I think. Ok, now I'm really confused! lol
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photobuddy
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 9:08:46 AM

this is not one that we see in the north west very often. Supply here is very constant just a little to expensive.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 6:40:25 AM

I used to see more of random out of gas signs but I guess with folks cutting back, I have seen it less often. However, during the storms it is usually more wide-spread and less just a random station. Often, it is just one grade that is out for the random outages, and with storms it could be regular that is out, or the entire station down due to power or safety issues.

This goes back to a suggestion made as a workaround for the dual price stations. That would be that any comment made would be durable and not go away until someone blanked out the comment. Too often the folks on the APPS (and many on the PC) do not take time to make a comment. Then, when they post they zero out the comment of the person that took the time. This should be a quick change that could help on two issues.

It doesn't completely solve either problem, but I think it would help.

[Edited by: TXJEANS at 7/4/2012 6:41:45 AM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2012 9:56:12 PM

kwzh:

I don't know that an Out Of Gas indicator in the Master Station List would be useful If the station were temporarily out of *all* fuel that it sells, then it might make sense to use the MSL to flag it as "Closed - Temporarily".

Forgetting that it's rare that gas stations are out of fuel at any time, even during the worst of storms, etc., most gas stations, when they're out of fuel, are out for only a short period of time.

It seems to me that by closing off price posting (via the Master Station List) for a given gas station, be it from posting from your Favorites list, as a new station entry (if you don't post from an already listed station or your favorites list, or from an app, you would need to inform members intending to post a price with a pop-up explaining that the station is temporarily out of gas. Then the issue would be complaints about getting pop-ups "because I know the station is open and selling gas". There would have to be another mechanism to re-open the gas station for price posting.

Unlike miser, who wrote that "it does happen occasionally...", maybe I'm in a very small minority that hasn't seen very many "temporary gas station closings" or "Out Of Gas" situations. And, when they've happened, because of, for example, the recent power outages, etc., in the northeast (or along the Southeast coast recently), and assuming that gas stations aren't using generators to remain open, it's been well announced on the radio, television, newspapers, etc., that gas stations are "out of gas." I know that's not the perfect solution, but I just don't see that many people having one and only one gas station option, not knowing that the gas station is out of gas. Yes, it's possible that a tourist or transient driver just happens upon that one and only gas station in area and is virtually empty, but the worst case, in my opinion, is that a person pulls into a gas station and has to go to the station next door, or down the street, or a one or two exits away, and has to pay a couple of cents more than is being posted for the "out of gas" gas station.

Sorry, to me, it's not a common enough occurrence that it's a significant problem. And, unlike miser73, who apparently sees gas stations running out of gas occasionally, I honestly can't remember gas stations anywhere I've been running out of gas because it has prices so significantly below that of other gas stations in the area, let alone the station having (using miser73's words) "one of the lowest prices around." Gas station operators in the areas I drive (northern Florida and the DC metro area, mostly) apparently are better able to coordinate fuel delivery, I guess, so they don't run out simply because they have "one of the lowest prices around."

I don't know; maybe I'm naive, or maybe I've just been lucky. But gas stations running out of gas, even temporarily, hasn't been a significant issue for me or any of the Gas Buddys I'm familiar with. I'm not saying I've never pulled into a gas station that didn't have closed pumps (for any number of reasons), but for how little inconvenience it's been to get gas right after I exited that station, I don't see it as as big a problem as, I guess, others see it.
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miser73
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2012 8:28:57 PM

Around here it does happen occasionally when a station has one of the lowest prices around. It seems that many people here use the info from GB to find the best prices, as the lowest priced stations often become quite crowded. It isn't quite the gas lines of the '70s, but I've often had to wait my turn if I wanted to save some change.
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2012 9:12:22 PM

Wow, haven't heard of a place in our area that has run out of even one type of gasoline, brings back bad memories of the gas crisis days
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2012 1:25:40 AM

Trouble is, if the station continues to display prices when it's not able to sell them, then even if we did have an explicit OOG indicator, it would get overwritten as soon as someone mistakenly posts the price that they see on the sign. If the station were temporarily out of *all* fuel that it sells, then it might make sense to use the MSL to flag it as "Closed - Temporarily" (and hope that the forthcoming change that will disallow diesel posts at stations not carrying diesel will also prevent anyone from posting a price at this station, until it gets unflagged.) I don't have a good solution for the case where it's out of one fuel but selling another, and the fact is not obvious to a drive-by price spotter.
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miser73
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 2:22:35 PM

Interesting topic! I haven't seen it recently, but I do recall a couple of times within the past couple of years, pulling into the station with the lowest price around, only to find out it had run out of regular. Once I even had the experience of it running out while I was filling my tank... the pump suddenly slowed way down when I had only pumped a gallon or two, and others around me were experiencing the same thing. I had to terminate the transaction and go elsewhere.

The suggestion to post it as a Comment sounds good at first, but many of us post drive-by sightings based on what's on the sign out front. Without pulling into the station we have no clue that it's out of one grade or another (OK, almost always regular, but I'm leaving it open to other possibilities), so we would post new prices without realizing what was going on. I'm not sure that I've ever seen comments on the mobile web display of search results for a community.

If something such as "OOG" (for Out Of Gas) could appear in place of a price for a grade that's out of stock, that would help to make the situation more apparent. Of course, we'd have to either be able to enter "OOG" in a price field or select it as an option in lieu of entering a price.

Just my thoughts, FWIW.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 1:37:22 AM

I'm confused about what you were confused about. Are you referring to where I said that scoutmaster's extended version of GoGoGoodyear's idea wouldn't work?
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 8:49:41 AM

Thanks, scout. That's the way I remember it. I'm just wondering what kwzh was talking about. I guess he/she meant for us to log into the main site.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2012 7:09:05 AM

Nope plastic that doesn't work. You have to zero out prices from the full site.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2012 1:06:31 PM

Last time I checked, it wasn't possible to zero out prices from the mobile app. Is it possible to post only a comment to a station? How about if we post all zeros and a comment from the app? Will that take?
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Cooter01
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 8:27:41 AM

I've seen stations ou of gas, but it's been awhile.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 6:55:52 AM

Whenever the hurricane hits, a lot of people seem to think it should have had a higher priority. But I don't care that much, myself.

As I said, the local message forum seems to be an adequate substitute for this feature.
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PD
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 11:07:48 AM

We'll consider this, but as indicated, it is pretty rare to see stations run out of gas. I'd think it to be proper that the price be zeroed until fuel is again flowing.

Thanks TRH for pointing out that while this is an issue, it is low priority.
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TheRavenHeart
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 8:49:57 AM

As a website user: yeah, that would be nice to be able to list when a station is out of gas, especially when there is a natural disaster.

As a programmer: eh, as infrequently as these situations occur, it isn't a high priority.

Just throwing 2 PoVs out there...
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 4:46:30 AM

scoutmaster writes,
> GoGoGoodyear's suggestion [of using the station comment field], in my opinion, is the best one. Also zero out the station to get it off the price boards.

Once it's off the price boards, there's no comment field to view.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 6:30:47 AM

How often is a station out of gas?????
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2012 6:51:31 AM

GoGoGoodyear's suggestion, in my opinion, is the best one. Also zero out the station to get it off the price boards.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2012 6:35:36 AM

GoGoGoodyear writes,
> What's wrong with putting a note in the station's Comment for that?

If the station isn't selling gas, then it's best if it's not shown in the listings as if it were -- even if there's a comment attached.

scoutmaster writes,
> How often is a station out of gas?

Whenever there's a disaster (hurricane, etc.) in this country, we get areas that have multiple out-of-gas stations. I've never experienced it myself, but I can understand how it would be useful in such a situation.

However (as I've said before), while waiting for the feature to be implemented, a reasonable workaround is to create a topic in your local forum for listing any stations that are out of gas.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2012 1:34:57 AM


What's wrong with putting a note in the station's Comment for that? The comment will remain until someone else updates the prices.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 10:31:37 PM

Not often scoutmaster, perhaps that is there are only 9 replies (4 of them ours), and the OP has yet to return.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 10:17:01 PM

How often is a station out of gas?????
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CritterSitter
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 6:52:22 PM

I TOTALLY AGREE with LisaNtn. There SHOULD BE a section where we could WARN other when a Station is OUT OF GAS!! That would be just as HELPFUL!! Have a Blessed Day!!

[Edited by: CritterSitter at 6/11/2012 6:53:05 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 7:54:53 AM

Looks like the OP is another one-hit-wonder!
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papa56NC
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 7:07:25 AM

Normally,It's the regular gas pumps that is out of gas when I see something like that.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 8:06:13 PM

It has been a month since LisaNtn created this topic and has not returned to the site (1/120). Perhaps the issue has been resolved.

Time to close the topic.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 8:47:27 AM

It has not happened to me yet.
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bruin19MD
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:33:30 PM

never happened to me, yet
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plastic
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 2:37:04 PM

Well it does happen although rarely. Thank you very much for visiting and joining. One place you could post the information is in Tennessee discussion so that others in your area will hopefully get your message.
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