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5454joshua Rookie Author Greensboro Posts:1 Points:120 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 9:31:14 AM Ignore 5454joshua Report Abuse I know BP is one company who doesn't purchase gas from the Middle East. Is no one concerned at this time in the world that it might not be a good idea to support companies who buy gas from Iran and other hostile contries.

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I know BP is one company who doesn't purchase gas from the Middle East. Is no one concerned at this time in the world that it might not be a good idea to support companies who buy gas from Iran and other hostile contries.

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gentlebutch Sophomore Author Tennessee Posts:220 Points:16,895 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 7:59:36 AM Ignore gentlebutch Report Abuse The problem with that is is it's almost impossible to tell if they are or not. Most of the lists you can find online are bogus. I know this cause (don't shoot me please he's just a little guy trying to earn a living) works in the biz. So he knows a little of what's going on.
abeazar Champion Author Tampa Posts:18,724 Points:3,648,850 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 6:28:44 AM Ignore abeazar Report Abuse Not always possible!
richbrew1 Rookie Author Ohio Posts:98 Points:20,500 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 5:22:02 AM Ignore richbrew1 Report Abuse does it really matter
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:23,065 Points:3,550,080 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 3:20:59 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse drillnanwr08, your "NOBAMA!!!" shtick all over the place is simple posting for points. If that is all you intend to do, then get out of the threads that are set up for discussion and stick to "Just For Fun". Expect to hear from the moderators. I highly doubt I am the only one who has seen it in several threads. Returning to the subject at hand, the only way to avoid purchasing Middle East Oil is to reduce consumption, and increase the availability of alternate sources of fuel, to the point where the US doesn't need to import from the Middle East. Until then, not only can the US not survive without those imports without having severe supply shortages, you can never be sure you get none because of the fact oil is a fungible commodity. Once it is in the supply chain, it isn't a different colour, so it isn't like knowing you aren't getting 7UP when you order Pepsi.
SIPLOWGUY Champion Author New York Posts:14,533 Points:2,798,015 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 1:08:39 AM Ignore SIPLOWGUY Report Abuse I buy USA
sluggopyle Champion Author North Carolina Posts:23,608 Points:1,075,890 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 2, 2008 12:45:45 AM Ignore sluggopyle Report Abuse By "those who hate us" presumably you mean the oil companies? It is they after all who control the building of new drill rigs and refineries. These are profitmaking ventures they're not overly keen on, but we the people have no say in that. What we do have a say in is demand and whether we stay addicted or look seriously for new renewable sources.
brownieOH Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,306 Points:260,020 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2008 11:59:47 PM Ignore brownieOH Report Abuse If we drill more in our country and build some more refineries, we won't have to depend on those who hate us for purchasing our fuel anymore.
EasyMPG Champion Author Ontario Posts:10,644 Points:1,445,370 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2008 5:31:44 PM Ignore EasyMPG Report Abuse Dilbert puts the fun in fungible!
gg42210 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,899 Points:332,970 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2008 2:07:13 PM Ignore gg42210 Report Abuse We need to Drill Here and Drill Now.
sluggopyle Champion Author North Carolina Posts:23,608 Points:1,075,890 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2008 1:19:59 AM Ignore sluggopyle Report Abuse uh- no chief, it doesn't work that way either. To both these ideas: Don't buy myths from sources who get it from nowhere. This is a complete utter load of crapola.
chieftmc Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,802 Points:749,200 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 9:56:42 AM Ignore chieftmc Report Abuse Very true. NO WAY to know where that crude came from! Just try to get your representatives behind drilling for our "own" oil and you'll be sure to know where it came from then !!!!!!!!!!
raiders327 Champion Author Waterbury Posts:1,060 Points:128,770 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 9:48:03 AM Ignore raiders327 Report Abuse Ahhh, Another mislead soul. There is absolutley no way to know what country the crude came from to refine the gas you put into your car. just relax and enjoy the lower prices [Edited by: raiders327 at 10/30/2008 9:51:37 AM EST]
Sealer Champion Author Charleston Posts:5,653 Points:838,850 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 9:39:59 AM Ignore Sealer Report Abuse We don't import gas from Iran. Iran imports gasoline itself. In fact, we don't even import oil from Iran. [Edited by: Sealer at 10/30/2008 9:40:14 AM EST]
mkondo92 All-Star Author Ohio Posts:749 Points:189,115 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 8:59:21 AM Ignore mkondo92 Report Abuse I'd rather give it to the Middle East than to Venezuela
SFrye Veteran Author Massachusetts Posts:318 Points:532,425 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 8:33:30 AM Ignore SFrye Report Abuse and just how would one know where the gas came from?
curlypooh Champion Author New Jersey Posts:11,327 Points:2,032,520 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 8:11:21 AM Ignore curlypooh Report Abuse Hard to figure out where the crude comes from. When the oil companies refine it into our gasoline the crude comes from all sources. It might be better if we either used less or found a closer to home solution.
mzw7lm Sophomore Author Lansing Posts:164 Points:108,270 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 8:02:38 AM Ignore mzw7lm Report Abuse And that would be????
440-6GTX Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,338 Points:351,440 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 7:56:19 AM Ignore 440-6GTX Report Abuse Sorry to dissapoint you but even BP gets some crude from the Middle East. Until we start drilling more here, every oil company will have to use some Middle East oil...
OilerFan Champion Author Tulsa Posts:14,179 Points:2,457,350 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 7:40:24 AM Ignore OilerFan Report Abuse They don't have a lot of BP in my area.
hjz Champion Author Bridgeport Posts:13,973 Points:2,691,115 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2008 7:39:45 AM Ignore hjz Report Abuse I buy gas when I need it!
Chief_01 Champion Author Maryland Posts:6,261 Points:1,442,740 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2008 6:40:22 AM Ignore Chief_01 Report Abuse Yes, it would be impossible to buy gas from a company that doesn't deal with the middle east.
nakiNJ Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:386 Points:119,840 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2008 6:30:20 AM Ignore nakiNJ Report Abuse which other companies dont buy from the middle east
jes Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:16,295 Points:3,378,225 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2008 6:20:45 AM Ignore jes Report Abuse This is easier said than done considering the number of refineries and where they get their supplies from. I know for a fact that our local Citgo stations get their gas from a local refinery and this refinery claims to get all its oil from North America.
CaptSquid Champion Author Billings Posts:25,795 Points:3,205,740 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2008 2:46:27 AM Ignore CaptSquid Report Abuse WufMan, you only harm your neighbours. Did you know that the biggest employer in Lake Charles, LA is the Citgo refinery? Your local Citgo franchisee might be someone you know.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,844 Points:2,168,625 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2008 2:28:58 AM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse gvan wrote: >Amoco is part of BP and they get oil from the Middle East. BP (then the Anglo-Persian Oil Company) was the oil company that did the first wells in the Middle East. >Tell me which oil producing countries, other than Canada, are >not hostile to the U.S. We have a fairly good rapport with Mexico.
Yonkers111 Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,342 Points:859,135 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 11:27:45 AM Ignore Yonkers111 Report Abuse If we didn't buy all the oil we do, you would be sold your 4 gallons per week and left to figure out the rest on your own. And while you are working on the computer with no gas in your car, you might want to read up on the current US embargo of Iran goods.
LordElgin Champion Author Fresno Posts:1,012 Points:258,875 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 11:18:22 AM Ignore LordElgin Report Abuse Great idea, but we don't have BP stations here. &radic
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,375 Points:2,211,885 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 11:15:07 AM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse Oil and gasoline are both commodities. Being commodities, you have no idea where one company get's it's raw material.
WufMan66 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:2,007 Points:285,295 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 11:03:37 AM Ignore WufMan66 Report Abuse The only stations I absolutely avoid are Citgo. Citgo is owned by the govt of Venezuela and they are definitely not on good terms with the US.
CaptSquid Champion Author Billings Posts:25,795 Points:3,205,740 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 10:35:52 AM Ignore CaptSquid Report Abuse Why do these subjects keep popping up?
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 10:29:29 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse The brand name on a gas station has no connection with which oil company made the base gasoline or which country the crude came from. Various refineries put their output into common carrier pipelines that move the gasoline to terminals. The terminals draw various grades of base gasoline from the pipeline and add the additive packages appropriate for the brand it will be sold under. There is no attempt to make sure the BP additive package goes into gasoline made at a BP refinery. The base gasoline (before additives) is treated as a commodity.
FuelPump Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:21,604 Points:3,441,725 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 10:28:19 AM Ignore FuelPump Report Abuse Sounds really nice, however the reality is, refiners sell to each other, and virtually any and all distributors. Its impossible to ferret out exactly where the source crude came from originally, at least consistantly.
EZEd Champion Author Birmingham Posts:16,390 Points:3,213,520 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 10:22:05 AM Ignore EZEd Report Abuse Here's a chart showing 2008 oil imports by company. It shows total oil imports, and percent imported from the Persian Gulf. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/summary2008.html According to this chart, 8% of BP's imports so far this year came from the Persian Gulf. Among the top ten oil importers on the list, the only companies that imported no Persian Gulf oil are Sunoco and Citgo. Citgo is owned by the Venezuelan government (NOT a friendly country), and as an oil exporting country doesn't need to get oil from the Persian Gulf. There are several smaller players who used no Persian Gulf oil. If you don't want your petrodollars going to unfriendly regimes, Persian Gulf and others, it looks like your only real choice is Sunoco. There aren't any Sunoco stations in my part of the country.
tommie1954 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:13,137 Points:2,735,320 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 10:03:03 AM Ignore tommie1954 Report Abuse who would you suggest I buy from? if those station are not here I am to drive across country to get gas from stations who don't buy from middle east!!! get real!
moosemanCA Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,937 Points:482,725 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 9:46:14 AM Ignore moosemanCA Report Abuse Sadly gvan has a point.
gvan Champion Author Chicago Posts:21,749 Points:2,863,015 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Oct 23, 2008 9:33:47 AM Ignore gvan Report Abuse Amoco is part of BP and they get oil from the Middle East. Tell me which oil producing countries, other than Canada, are not hostile to the U.S.