SCSDOG
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2009 12:28:48 PM
propane in toledo, ohio @ my suppler is 1.48 pg cash. and 1.55 for pre-buy for this coming winter down .82 cents from last year.
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bguz
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2009 6:10:49 AM
what about the few who have LP autos (i.e. my pic)?
[Edited by: bguz at 4/30/2009 6:11:35 AM EST]
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GFREE09
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2009 8:41:23 AM
From NH ... April 1, 2009 Eastern Propane fill up (500 gal tank) price per Gal. quoted was $2.07 today.
Local oil cost is $1.99/Gal.
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OtisCohodes
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2009 1:33:16 AM
I don't think GB would be the best place for reporting residential propane prices. I like the idea but the staff must draw the line somewhere. However, links to alternative fuel info could possibly be accomplished. Many recources are available on the internet for propane pricing and info. Their may not be a widely available database but certainly a lot of info.
Price here in N. Michigan for my residence; 500 gal tank, furnace and w. heater; Nov 2008 fill-$2.49/gal. Feb 2009 fill- $2.09 (saved $80 alone last partial fill). My tank is owned by the provider, which is very common, at least here. So I am a dedicated customer for this company. I cannot have my tank filled by another company if I would like because some other sells it cheaper. About 5-6 yrs ago I was paying just under $1.00/gal. Paid about $1300-1400 to heat a 1400 sq. ft. newer house this winter.
Most other local companys have a competitive price and it is your choice when initially choosing a provider. I could have my tank pulled out and replaced with anothers service but this would be an extreme measure and semi-permanent decision.
What hurts with propane is the large bill shock when you receive it. However, most companys have payment arrangements year round so it doesn't hurt as bad. Best for those who cannot budget money well. Bargain discounts are usually available with a locked in lower rate before the heating season begins but a sizeable deposit is required, I forget, maybe $800.
Some companys offer an "auto-fill" service where they make sure you never run out. I have elected not to have that because I closely monitor my fuel use throughout the year. If I were to run out of fuel due to my neglect, like the middle of a winter weekend, an emergency refill would have to be ordered and there is usually a hefty fee incurred, $75-100. 24 hour "emergency" service is available.
In the past 15-20 years, there has been a tremendous conversion from fuel oil to propane residential heat, at least in this region. Propane was touted as cheaper to run, more efficient, cleaner burning and so forth. Rural areas such as this, these are the 2 likely choices.
If I remember correctly, propane cost is not as closely linked to crude as other heating fuels and natural gas. The rate of refinement is somewhat inconsistent but the price is much more stable than other fuels. Industry switches over to propane during the summer months because of the available supply and lower cost but its arguable that winter residential use ends up suffering more with higher heating costs because of the summertime high demand.
Heating oil may be a bargain at this time but the price is certainly to increase signifigantly once again. Propane isn't so bad, it just doesn't fluctuate like others do. Which are you better off with? I don't know. Each industry will claim they are. Take your pick.
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zornave
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2009 4:40:30 PM
I wouldn't expect it to happen here any time soon (if ever) but this might somewhat serve your purposes for the time being. You can tailor it to your specific needs.
Alternative Fuel Locator
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tom59
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:08:14 AM
/opm/lib/opm/pdpd_energy/
shoppsurvey.pdf
....this is for Connecticut. I'm paying 3.94 a gallon which according to Ct. stats I'm being seriously gouged. I know some locals are paying between 3.19 and 3.34.
BTW there are two bills in legislature right now to fix this price fixing.
If you live in Connnecticut write your congressman and make him vote for them. Then we can buy a tank and fill it like oil. Find the best price and have them fill it. What happened was the propane industry convinced them propane needed special care and they would only fill their own tanks.They NEVER look at my tank or fittings or valves EVER. Using propane for 10 yrs now.....or more.
Not one inspection. E Osterman is my supplier for now.
[Edited by: tom59 at 3/12/2009 11:14:02 AM EST]
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stwalker717
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2009 11:30:11 AM
The trouble is with propane is it makes absolutely no sense. People filling barbecue grill bottles pay $4-$5 per gallon. Heating customers in Maine pay in the mid $2.50 per gallon for usage over say 700 gallons per year. And you are at their mercy once they get their tank on your property as to daily price changes and when they fill.
I own property in the Bangor area and just paid 2.47 per gallon, in the mid coast area I just paid 2.79, which went up from 2.59. Rumor had it that their is a shortage of holding tanks in Maine because of increased usage from people switching over on the advice it was cheaper. I own apartments and the current oil cash price is $1.52 and my propane is a $1.00 more, how is that cheaper. I am looking into buying my own steel tanks and filling when prices are down. I will put a 500 gal tank at every property I own. Either that or I have to find out whether or not you can get propane delivered only when requested, I had heard since it is their tank they can fill it when they want. Price goes up the fill. If you live in the Bangor Maine area, Maine Energy for years has been a very good company as far as price and service and they come way down to I think Waterville. In the mid coast area Downeast Energy is ridiculous, and M W Sewall is now sruggling and their prices are going sour. Back in the 80's and 90's I paid between .90 cents and a dollar for well over 10 years. It didn't matter what oil did, propane was very stable now since they talked people into propane it is worse than oil. Hell I have CMP good sense apartments, it would be cheaper today to shut the Rinnais off and turn the electric heat back on.
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mbgrafix
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2009 3:53:48 PM
I have a 100 gallon tank and use propane for my hot water and my dryer. I just got a delivery of 96 gallons today (Feb. 27, 2009) from Suburban Propane at the ridiculously astronomical price of $3.69 a gallon! My previous delivery in December was $3.93 per gallon! Can anybody say, "This is a stickup!"? In this economy, I guess Suburban Propane's motto ought to be "Kick 'em when they're down!".
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MayMD
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2009 3:10:33 PM
Found this on propane-priceing.com
Apparently it is up to each individual consumer to monitor propane prices to determine if they are being charged a fair price.
Propane Pricing Tips:It is very important to conduct your own propane pricing research on a regular basis to ensure that your price is competitive. If you are not participating in a supplier prebuy program and your suppliers prices are not publicly posted, consider the following methods of research:
Make sure all your suppliers delivery tickets clearly show your propane price per gallon. If these documents fail to show your price per gallon, contact your supplier and request that your price per gallon be included on future delivery tickets. Without being aware of your price per gallon, you will be unable to compare propane prices offered by other suppliers in your area. Call your current supplier once or twice per month, especially during the winter heating months, and anonymously inquire about their standard price per gallon. Contact other suppliers in your area and inquire about their standard price per gallon at the same time. Ask for both the current customer and new customer pricing information for a customer that purchases your approximate propane volume each year. Note prices for both purchased and leased tanks. Keep this information organized in a file for comparison purposes in the future. After receiving a propane delivery, contact other suppliers to compare their price per gallon with the price per gallon that appears on your suppliers recent delivery ticket. Keep a record of the pricing information by date and supplier to review periodically. When viewing the EIA national or state propane price information, it is important to pay close attention to the directional trend of propane prices, rather than the exact national average price per gallon. If the national pricing average is going up or down during the past few weeks, compare the direction of your suppliers pricing for the same time period. The directional pricing movement will not be identical; however, the pricing should follow the same general direction. Ask your friends and neighbors about their propane pricing. When comparing pricing, make sure you consider if both tanks are leased or purchased and if the annual volume is similar. If all factors are comparable, then the pricing should be similar. If both propane tanks are leased and have similar capacity, the annual rental fees for the tanks should be similar. Each propane consumer is ultimately responsible for ensuring that his/her propane pricing is competitive. If it becomes evident during your random price surveys that your supplier does not offer competitive propane pricing, it may be in your best interest to change your propane service to another supplier.
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MayMD
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2009 2:55:15 PM
I heat with propane in the mid-atlantic. November 2008 I paid $2.47 per gallon. That was the REDUCED price after I complained that he price they quoted was too high. Gasoline at the time was about $1.57 a gallon. Another supplier in this area was charging over $3 a gallon. I think propane pricing is not well regulated. Homeowners who have buried tanks cannot easily change suppliers. Maybe it is time to have our representatives look into how prices are set.
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mustang68scout
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2009 12:28:29 AM
I'm in for propane reporting. My motorhome runs on it and it would be nice to be able to locate stations when I am looking for fuel.
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tgolf
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2009 6:33:01 PM
So it looks as if Propane has a good following. So what does it take to have Propane prices on the top page?
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Birdeyeman
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2009 1:55:43 PM
I had my propane tank filled in Parsonsfield, ME on 1/20/2009 @ $2.68 per gallon.This was from Perkins Propane out of Newfield, Maine
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sailorbear
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2009 4:14:44 PM
I just had my LP tank filled on Jan 31st 2008 here in Belfast Maine. They filled it with 350 gallons and it cost $878.15. Guess that works out to $2.509 a gallon. That seems high to me.
[Edited by: sailorbear at 1/1/2009 4:16:01 PM EST]
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DenVillaRicaGa
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2008 1:51:26 PM
I just purchased 100 gallons of propane @ $2.39 per gallon. Total with tax and delivery was $256.70 - Alpine Gas Villa Rica Georgia.
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katwomanCA
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2008 11:26:52 AM
Anyone know of a place to get current LPG price trends? Is it going up or down?
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#12#_BrittanysPal
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2007 10:50:29 PM
Propane and Gasolinr prices nationwide here:
Average Fuel Prices, Gasoline, & LPG (Propane)
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#12#_exIllinois
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2007 11:34:04 AM
In Seattle area -- paid nearly $3/gallon in November to fill my propane tank for home heating (with Ferrellgas). I'm changing to Suburban, which was $2.25 at the time. It's not fun to switch. They'll need to install a new tank, with piping changes, while we're still working off the old one and I'll have to run the old tank as dry as I can before switching over. I wish I knew why Ferrellgas is so much higher. It was just over $2 last year so I don't understand how they justify the increase when the prices in general are lower this year.
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#12#_BamBam66
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2007 11:16:14 PM
I just paid 2.25 for 205 gallons from Pacer propane. I am on the auto fill plan where they come by every week or every other week. They are typically much less than others in the pdx area.
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guy1334guy
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2007 1:31:57 PM
prices on propane are dropping
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Gasinista
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2007 10:33:54 AM
Is it as easy to change propane providers as it is gas? I would think an area only has a few providers or propane, where there are dozens in an area that supply gas. (Cars are also much more mobile than houses...) I think it would make for an interesting site - but not within GB / maybe as an affiliate?
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#12#_AuntieEm2
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2007 9:29:44 AM
Just had a propane delivery at zipcode 18325. The price was 2.59 a gallon. I used to get a special price for my 2-500 gallon tanks. Not now.If I pay within 10 days I get 10 cents per gallon off. Gas prices are down now and so should propane gas prices.
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#12#_frosty69
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2007 8:56:39 PM
I live at zip code 56536, that is MN. I was charged 1.54 a gallon for propane, but if I paid withing 10 days the price was $1.44, which I did. here is a site that tells the wholesale price of propane for the US.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/weekly_petroleum_status_report/current/pdf/tablec4.pdf
I would like to know if any agency regulates the price of propane, of if the dealers can just charge whatever they feel like charging, as the wholesale price in MN in my area in January is around .95, .50 a gallon profit seems like excessive profits to me. I realize they have have expenses like any business, but a fair profit and gouging is different, especially when they have a monopoly on their product, and you can't shop around for a better price from a different company.
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2peek
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2007 8:45:17 PM
propane, kerosene, heating oil, premium and mid grades...
post em all...in your home state category open a topic...
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GuardRail
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2007 6:20:13 PM
Bright_Scouter, have you tried accessing http://www.propaneprices.com?
You may be surprised.
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#12#_avolpe
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2007 4:25:53 PM
I use propane, last bill dated jan 3, 2007 listed $1.77 per gallon. Last year was $1.59. My zip code is 18428. Anybody there with other prices?
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GRJ
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2007 5:08:56 PM
Is propane really cheaper?
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TigerRose
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2006 6:32:32 AM
This is at least the THIRD time I have seen the LP topic mentioned. Still, nothing here will be done about it.
I myself had to have the 500 Gallon LP tank filled last week.
Didn't have a clue what the price would be, until the driver presented me with the bill.
Oh, well, at least now I got heat for the Winter, with the tank filled, anyway.
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PolishPrince
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2006 9:54:30 AM
Can't balme them if they want to cap it somewhere. Next it will be AvGas then Jet-A. Plus it will limit bandwidth on their server. Do you want a slower website?
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2hrDriver
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2006 10:38:40 PM
i say no to home heating oil/gas. But why don't we have a column to list midgrade/premium gasoline. I also have stations that sell diesel, kerosine, & propane. If we have a column for diesel what about the other 2. I don't think adding 4 more columns would be that difficult.
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ORbiker
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2006 1:06:43 PM
Propane prices here in Oregon can vary over 40 cents. It would be nice to have a place to view the prices.
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Gas_Buzzer
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2006 9:21:48 AM
Propane in the coastal area of South Carolina is the highest in the SE. We are constantly ripped off. It is almost $3.00/gallon currently.
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goodoldjon
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2006 11:38:24 AM
I vote yes for home heating oil
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Bezalel
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2006 10:09:14 PM
"Even if they would just list spot prices for propane like they do fuel oil and natural gas. That would at least show us the wholesale price jumps. "
On the topic "Post your thoughts ..." a link to charts is listed. It takes a click or two to get almost any energy price (click on energies)
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ScroogeMcPump
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2006 9:19:44 PM
But they still need to clarify whether that means "by the gallon for your vehicle" or "by the tankful for your barbecue".
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2006 1:23:01 AM
The MSL has a checkbox for propane (as well as premium, etc.), so perhaps there are plans to eventually accept price input for all of them.
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75PowerWagon340
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2006 10:50:44 PM
Before we start adding propane into the mix... I want Midgrade and Premium... then more users want E-85... then propane also... thats ridiculous!
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#12#_Chrisppy
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2006 7:12:35 PM
" WIth the central theme of this site centering on motor vehicle fuel prices, heating oil would be out of the league.
I can see a pandoras box of sorts opening up if we start allowing extra non-gasoline items. There would be cries for car washe price listings, milk price listings etc etc...."
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I cannot run a motor vehichle off of milk, nor a car wash, I do however use propane to 'fuel' my 'motor vehichle' every day. I think it is, "in the league." Heating oil is sold in different ways, directly to the customers home etc... sure, let's not complicate things. I would just like to see a place where people can post prices of "propane" sold right next to gasoline at gas stations.
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LoneGuy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2006 5:08:32 AM
I didn't realize the theme was strictly autos. I do think the site has fuel oil info now. This topic post has gotten a lot of input. The interest seems to be there.
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Tried
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2005 11:22:44 AM
cougarls88,
I agree that posting the prices for residentual or commecial LPG would not be practical; however, posting LPG motor fuel prices would be.
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cougarls88
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2005 9:00:21 AM
In all honesty, I don't think adding a section for "residential" (ie heating fuel) propane would be a worthwhile idea. There's simply too many variables to consider which would make any reporting of prices little more than a wild guess of area prices. For example, many (if not most) residential propane companies have tables (and/or a database) of prices to charge based on annual usage and the equipment the homeowner has (water heater, range, furnace, etc.). The general rule of thumb is that the LESS propane one uses annually, the MORE you'll pay per gallon. Supposedly this is done to not penalize commercial and industrial customers who use large amounts, but as you can guess, this makes conservation of it to save money fruitless (they're going to get you one way or another).
Before somebody claims that I'm "nuts", this pricing differential has been acknowledged as an industrywide practice (albeit one that many people don't know about).
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Bright_Scouter
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2005 12:40:56 PM
Even if they would just list spot prices for propane like they do fuel oil and natural gas. That would at least show us the wholesale price jumps.
But yes, I would like to see them listed like gasoline somewhere on the site.
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kctopper
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2005 3:20:42 PM
Makes sense to me if we added that topic. I use propane to heat my home, so it's near and dear to my heart.
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Tried
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2005 3:10:32 PM
LPG (Propane) gas is a motor fuel for over 2 million vehicles in the United States. I agree, it should have a place here on GasBuddys. In the QuadCities today the low price is at The Flying J / Conoco station at $1.75 a gallon (no 9/10 either!) <smile>. Don't you wish your vehicle ran on LPG?
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#12#_Kachinat
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2005 10:40:34 AM
I think Bright_Scouter's suggestion is excellent.
Heating oil, propane, natural gas, gasoline......they are ALL rising in tandem nationally. Energy is the NUMBER ONE stock market topic. It affects us all & is comprised of not JUST gasoline. I'm building a log home & will be heating entirely with gas in an underground tank. Rumors are, prices will triple just in time for winter.
Jessup, this site is, after all, "Virginia GAS Prices." All of the above are fuel items. Gasoline....Natural Gas. Heating oil is the only one that doesn't have "gas" in it's name......but hey....it's petroleum, right?
What pandora's box? Website manager just needs to put one more tab up top & duplicate the page with gasoline prices posted. It can't be THAT hard.
More & more people are heating with gas due to outrageous electricity rates, Bright. I think MANY would post price findings if there was an option to do so.
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jessep28
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2005 1:45:14 PM
WIth the central theme of this site centering on motor vehicle fuel prices, heating oil would be out of the league.
I can see a pandoras box of sorts opening up if we start allowing extra non-gasoline items. There would be cries for car washe price listings, milk price listings etc etc....
[Edited by: jessep28 at 10/6/2005 1:45:23 PM EST]
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MandaJ
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2005 9:16:29 AM
Yes that would be nice to be able to get listings on heating oil
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Bright_Scouter
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2005 8:38:45 AM
Good point. I hadn't even thought of that!
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Tried
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2005 2:30:58 PM
Some people use it in their trucks and cars too, and it's a lot less than gasoline or other alternative fuels.
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