TxJeans

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 11:02:22 AM
"I agree it's important but it's not as simple as you think. The coding could take days and testing could take longer."
And the Mobile App fluff doesn't?
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 10:47:37 AM
We have someone in our area reporting diesel prices for stations that do not sell diesel. This person is doing the same thing for stations in Cincinnati.
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scoutmaster

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 6:51:45 PM
"It is a simple fix and would eliminate a lot of errors."
I agree it's important but it's not as simple as you think. The coding could take days and testing could take longer.
[Edited by: scoutmaster at 3/29/2012 6:52:21 PM EST]
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gaspricepasser

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 4:30:25 PM
I just ran across a "phantom" diesel price yesterday while updating a station, and not seeing a diesel pump, or any sign for it. I even drove in to check. I also ran into a number of completely bogus "guess" prices in the same area. Did not check who had posted them, but I will be back in that area, and will look again to see if this is a regular problem.
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kwzh

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 4:02:31 AM
It could indeed affect ad revenue, if it causes people to stop visiting the site.
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jerry972

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 12:20:45 AM
I agree with herndonks and FreeRoy's suggestion. It is a simple fix and would eliminate a lot of errors.
Unfortunately, the problem, while real, does not affect the ad revenue the GB site owners get. I don't expect anything to change (but would be pleasantly surprised if it did).
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TNT2EC

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 4:57:06 PM
The Kwik Trip in Woodbury, MN has never sold diesel, yet, all there people are posting a diesel price at this station. These folks are getting point for posting fake prices. I really wish that the price input windows would check the station's info and not allow input of a price if the station info notes it does not have that grade of fuel. To be even more on it, if you post a price for fuel that is not sold at the station, take points away.
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CelticHeart

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 10:15:56 AM
qsabe, what difference does it make to you? You've been a member for almost a year and have NEVER posted ONE gas price.
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manaknight14

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Pennsylvania
Posts:538 Points:428,360 Joined:Oct 2011
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Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 9:26:18 AM
I didn't mean Sheetz was deliberately doing it just for the purpose of messing with people. I apologize if it sounded that way. What I meant was that since they're pretty much the only chain in the area that puts kerosene on some of their signs, price spotters who aren't paying attention (which sadly is a lot of them) tend to report the price as diesel because they don't read the sign carefully. Even I misreported a diesel at Sheetz once because I reported the price on my phone from some distance away and couldn't see that it said "kero" on the sign until I got closer. I ended up having to zero out my own price. Now I always check the Sheetz signs carefully, but I only know to because I've reported so many of them. We get enough non-existent diesel prices at Sheetz stations with kero that it's clear a lot of people are not reading the signs. The implication I made that it was somehow Sheetz's fault was meant to be taken ironically as an example of what a lazy price reporter would say if accused of reporting fake diesel prices. I suppose the fact that I intended it humorously didn't communicate well in text format.
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Gas_Buddy

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 2:31:02 PM
How is it that Sheetz is "always screwing with price posters" just because they include the kerosene price on their marquee?
If the price clearly indicates that it's for kerosene, that's not Sheetz screwing with the prices. It's the Gas Buddy members not paying attention to what they're reading or not paying attention to what they're price posting on this website.
Some stations, as I said earlier, marquee post the price for regular and premium, post for regular and diesel, some for regular premium and diesel, and some for regular mid-grade and premium. And some post for Kerosene or post indicating cash price or post cash and credit prices for regular. That's what the gas station thinks the driving public is interested in; that's not screwing with the prices.
If you have to zero out prices, blame the Gas Buddy member for not posting accurately.
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manaknight14

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2012 1:37:53 PM
LakemontPark: Hehe, sounds like you've been to Sheetz. They're always screwing with price posters by putting kerosene on the price marquee. I too have to zero out a lot of kero prices reported as diesel, and it seems the vast majority of the ones I encounter are Sheetz stations.
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Gas_Buddy

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 8:08:18 PM
I'm going to be somewhat cynical here but, first, it's been discussed in numerous topics about gas or diesel price postings for stations that don't have certain octanes or types of fuel. You could have contributed to those discussions and provided your insight.
Second, many of the posting "errors", to use a nice word, seem to come from the advent of the Gas Buddy app, as people are posting prices more quickly, leading to more errors, and because some members apparently are interested in the awards given for app posting. However, gas stations differ in what prices they post on their signs; some stations show the "cash price", some show the credit price, some show the price for regular and premium (or regular, mid-grade and premium), some show the price for regular and diesel. Some of the "lowest priced diesel fuel prices" you're commenting on might (might, not are, but might) be because someone read a price for premium, as it's shown at other stations, and assumed it was the diesel price.
Haven't you made any mistakes in posting gas or diesel prices? Or might have made mistakes in price posting?(7/265)
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LakemontPark

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 5:55:44 PM
I think for some stations people might report the kero prices in the diesel slot not reading what the grade is they are reporting I know they do around here because kero is at some places cheaper then kero but there reporting them for the points and not in regard to the grade they select
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herndonks

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 5:51:40 PM
Many Many members have suggested in various forums that the system be set so that prices can be reported only for grades of fuel that the Master Station List shows as being available at the station. With the system the way it is now, it is almost impossible to use GB to find low priced diesel. Come on GB, this is an easy fix, please listen and give us the change.
[Edited by: herndonks at 3/26/2012 5:52:33 PM EST]
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FreeRoy

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Mar 26, 2012 4:30:47 PM
Agreed. I just saw that someone has posted prices for Regular, Mid-range, and Premium gas at our local Sam's Club. All well and good, except that Sam's is like Costco: They only carry Regular and Premium, no mid-range. It would take some work, but this website could just disable price reporting for products that a particular station does not carry.
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