CobraJ

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 8:57:32 AM
Speculators aren’t worrying. The price will spike back up completely wiping out that 32 sent drop and put more money in their greedy pockets.
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WalRus49

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Boston
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 8:40:18 AM
More organized mayhem and pillage.............
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molebaby96

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 7:24:43 AM
Pump prices still rising.
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werich44

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 6:19:12 AM
We are having a good time now.
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anascom

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 2:54:25 AM
ok...
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amerk73

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 1:09:10 AM
WTI Crude Oil now at $93.51
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tnfran

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 12:52:07 AM
Yeah---- so how about another "nose dive for it".
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dh0770

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 12:46:31 AM
"Oil ends lower on last-minute profit taking"
Speculators....
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1momsunshine

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 12:31:37 AM
k
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pumaMN

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:49:07 PM
boooo
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knutzAL

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:48:40 PM
K
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leeac

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:33:29 PM
Demand is stable or lower while supply is lower due to refinery problems therefore price is down and going lower as refinery problems lessen.
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eomc17

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:33:10 PM
We have a government that over the past ten years have rigorously embraced sky high oil and gas prices. Big oil and speculators have embraced all time high record profits and profit margins because Bush deregulated commodity trading at Wall Street so often that now there is very little regulation left to hinder big oil from manipulating market prices and supply and speculators from hitting the public with an arsenal of excuses as to why oil and gas prices have to be hyper-inflated for the past nine years.
Our oil production is at record high levels and fuel consumption is at an 11 year low. However, refinery, pipeline, and tanker accidents and disasters are at historically high levels and big oil exports a near record amount of WTI and gasoline while importing near record high amounts of overpriced Brent Crude and gasoline to further justify sky high gas prices while our government lies to its mostly unsuspecting public about its so-called quest for "energy independence" yet does absolutely nothing to encourage big oil from participating with this pipe-dream.
Our government taxes refineries at a whopping 41% so is it no wonder that refiners often produce well below capacity and sell a lot of its refined products to commodity traders here and abroad to skew the amount of oil and gasoline in our stockpiles to give the public the misconception that our demand for gasoline is supposedly increasing while actually decreasing.
Our politicians get hefty contributions from big oil so when big oil commits disasters of catastrophic proportions, the imposed fines on big oil are so puny that it does not inspire big oil to change its tune one bit.
When you hear about how much oil North Dakota has, supposedly more than even Alaska, is it not the least bit suspicious that the price of WTI crude is near the historical high average instead of lower? WTI is not worth anywhere near 94$ but when speculators constantly justify increases in the price of WTI by blaming Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Greece, Italy, hopes of economic recovery, hopes of QE3, hopes of increased demand, the jobs created while ignoring the number of poor souls leaving the workforce, reduction of oil and gas in our stockpiles, refinery outages, pipeline leaks, etc, etc, etc.
Do didn't hear nearly so many excuses before 2003 as to why oil and gas prices have to go up. Obama claimed twice, on public TV, that he opposed high gasoline prices, twice "calling on Congress to reign in speculators", while offering zero dollars for Congress or the CFTC to enact and enforce such necessary legislation....ahem, Mr President, YOU ARE A TWO-FACED LIAR and everything you touch makes everything in our country more expensive.
Services prices...higher....utility bills...much higher....commodity prices....much higher....gas and oil prices...much higher....health insurance premiums and out of pocket obligations...much higher....food prices...higher...unemployment rate...over 8% for longer than any time since the great depression thanks to government overregulation.
We are not rich like you, Mr President, get off your high horse and have some real compassion for your people instead of treating us with disrespect. We are sick and tired of so many prices going up because of your failed policies and bad decision-making skills.
If the majority of our voters are dumb and uneducated enough to put you back in office for four more years then the prices of everything will continue to stay sky high and have only themselves to blame. I voted for him once and once is enough.
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esq262

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Asheville
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:25:21 PM
Doubt we will see it at the pump.
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underbird10

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:53:35 PM
Not much of an outcry about oil being up $15/barrel in the last six weeks, probably because we're all numb to the news anymore. Also, not much uproar over gas prices being up 50 cents a gallon over the same period. That's a real puzzler since this directly affects the public who usually bitch about it and trigger the spin doctors to work their magic.
The real odd thing about all this is that the Big Oilers, specs, refiners, wholesalers and retailers have pretty much given up making excuses. If you'll notice, even the BS stories have quieted significantly over the last couple of months. It's almost like they're all just saying "F*%$ 'em, we control the market so why should we even have to try and justify our enormous profits." I just wonder if this means that we, as consumers, have pretty much just given up hope that this madness will eventually stabilize. It's a sure sign that some kind of paradigm shift is going on when the bullshitters don't even have to try anymore and we're not even trying to keep them honest.
This is all just a very sad state of affairs, I'm afraid.
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bkplenge

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:51:29 PM
"Oil markets got “a little rich” without the support from supply-and-demand fundamentals" - That's been going on for several years now. That's why the economy stays in bad shape.
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lonewolf_947

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:21:08 PM
Its still high tho........ lets see if it can go down & then see what happens down the road.....
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Nicoalbum

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:13:26 PM
Still a high speculative price
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RONALD777

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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 9:09:32 PM
Nice way to make money!
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lesndave

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Texas
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:49:13 PM
Down down down
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amerk73

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:40:26 PM
WTI Crude Oil now at $93.37
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mvoth1

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:33:06 PM
Why not, take some of those profits and build another refinery and create some jobs here in the USA. If you think its all about oil, then do something about it with jobs instead of creating a synthetic market based on low volumn of gas. IMO this intentional so speculators can make big profits at our expense. Has nothing to do with how much oil we have, just how much refined gas we have. Had major fire several years back in Houston, TX., now one on west coast. Gas is...highly flammable...!
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:05:11 PM
Prices up 4 to 8 cents in many stations around me since yesterday.
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Meowmy

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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 8:02:06 PM
Need to regulate the speculators.
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ToolinIt

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:59:19 PM
Not much movement on the commodity if the price only went down 0.3%.
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mike56MI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:59:00 PM
Gotta take those profits
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dave27johnson

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:41:24 PM
A new bubble that should burst soon.
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jorobins538

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:19:49 PM
so what?
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 7:06:51 PM
Yep, greedy oil speculators doing what they know how to do — profit taking.
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cmmattia

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 6:57:07 PM
yeah!!!! :)P
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uglytom

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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 6:53:21 PM
Down,down,down
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 6:50:20 PM
and the pendulum swings
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brbaritone

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 6:36:53 PM
The article continues:
... the positive supplies report as they pinned the decline to an specific pipeline incident, he added.
Earlier Wednesday, the Energy Information Administration reported a decline of 3.7 million barrels for crude in the week ended Aug. 3. That compared with expectations of a decline around 300,000 barrels, according to analysts polled by Platts.
The EIA also reported gasoline supplies fell 1.8 million barrels on the week, while distillates retreated 700,000 barrels. The analysts surveyed by Platts had forecast drops of 2 million barrels for gasoline and 1 million barrels for distillates.
A larger-than-expected drawdown in inventories shown in a trade group’s report on Tuesday had already kindled expectations that the EIA data would show a similar drop.
The larger drop was mainly due a recent Enbridge Inc. pipeline shutdown, said Tariq Zahir, managing member with Tyche Capital Advisors in the New York area.
Further gains would be met with profit-taking, especially with the stronger U.S. dollar, he said.
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