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Shocker: Conservative Fox News Guest Tears Up Conservative Lies About Chevy Volt

Clean Technica -- Their conservative guest, Lee Spieckerman, CEO of Spieckerman Media, a self-described “drill, baby, drill guy,” debunks every single right-wing myth about the Volt, noting:
I love Fox news, and I feel like I’m kind of attacking my own family here. I love O’Reilly, I love Neil Cavuto, I love Eric Bolling, but like a lot of my fellow conservative, they seem to have kind of a fetish for demonizing the Volt.
They are perpetuating the myth that the Volt was some kind of Obama administration green energy fantasy that as you say was forced on General Motors during the bailout.
It’d been in development two years before Obama was elected. And it was championed by… Bob Lutz, who is a conservative and a climate change skeptic. So you know it’s a myth.


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knot2swift
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:07:42 PM

Do I smell another election issue? Billions wasted of technology that is "Over priced" and "Not ready yet"?
serrog
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:05:09 PM

Who do we believe?
agr964
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:02:30 PM

us4usa - You can't compare the cost of a car to an SUV or truck. They are totally different vehicles that serve different purposes. It's like justifying the cost effectiveness of a truck by saying it costs less to own than a bus.

Compared to the 5-year cost other similar vehicles, the volt is at best, a wash (until it comes time to replace the batteries).



[Edited by: agr964 at 3/29/2012 11:06:03 PM EST]
URKiddinMee
Champion Author South Carolina

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 11:00:03 PM

Keep drinking that leftist Kool Aid "jedidiah." Recent science supports the conclusion that oil is a naturally renewing resource. How many dinosaurs do you think there WERE anyway?
30mpg80
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:59:45 PM

Must have left the talking heads speechless
Agarre
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:59:42 PM

No voltage in Volt
us4usa
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:57:43 PM

GreenAstro:
I love all the way too expensive comments.. guys you have not been looking at the prices of new cars lately..

Volt $39,312
Suburban $39,904
Tahoe $36,612
Ford F-250 $32,723
Escalade $61,223

Escalade 5 Year Total Cost to Own $76,001
F-25 5 year Total Cost to Own $57,529
Volt 5 year Total Cost to Own $40,444

So, you are shortsighted if all you look at is the initial cost of the car, for the 5 years that most people own a car the Volt is cheaper.

Here's one for you...
How much did it cost me to own F-350 and a Suburban??? Family of six, we paid $15K for my truck crew 4x4 and $15K for the SUV 4x4 both used, $30K... I buy/sell cattle monthly sometimes weekly... Plus move hay year round and equipment,fuel in hay season... The wife drives the Suburban to works two miles from home, plus shops in town saturdays 15 miles...

Or how much could we save if we trade the p/u and SUV to buy two volts???

Thanks for your help in this matter...

Jedidiah
Champion Author Maine

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:55:14 PM

volt......after there is no more oil then all partially oil rig dependent vehicles will be a joke. Will they not?
FocusGuy
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:51:58 PM

volt-------a joke
shea33
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:51:13 PM

trader
URKiddinMee
Champion Author South Carolina

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:48:46 PM

Go ahead and buy one, Mr. Spiekerman. Let us know how you enjoy the cost of your replacement battery and how much fun you have when the thing spontaneously bursts into flames. As for me and my family, we will NEVER purchase another vehicle from any company which took our tax funded "bailout from Obozo."
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:48:41 PM

Waste your money on the Zero Volt.

Keep taxpayer money out of it.

Let the greenies spend their own money, not taxpayers' money.

Let the greenies walk. Let them freeze. Let them go broke. Let them go first.

Green is red. Green is corrupt. Green is "through the looking glass."
VomVom
Champion Author Calgary

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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:45:13 PM

The Volt doesn't need any help to be demonized. At $41,000 a pop, it does that very well on its own.
agr964
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:38:51 PM

Simply eliminate most of the batteries and therefore cost, and the Volt would be fine. Then it's just the engine powering an electric generator -- Exactly how modern locomatives operate.

[Edited by: agr964 at 3/29/2012 10:39:34 PM EST]
tasha88CA
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:37:27 PM

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BlackSbr
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:36:37 PM

Thank you Captain Obvious
36IHBinder
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:33:51 PM

Still an idea that needs to be on the table.
WeasleyOC
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:32:35 PM

Still not cost effective.
flahusky
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:32:03 PM

Fox news lies?
Gov.' Motors has a crap product no one wants/can afford?
Shocked!
letterchunker
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:27:51 PM

too much cost
PegasusAT
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:25:32 PM

How many common folk can afford the Chevrolet Volt...we know it's a bust. It's up to Chevrolet to admit it now.
WaWanderer
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:24:57 PM

The cost of the EV is too expensive at this time. They need more development.
69Bonne
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:22:46 PM

Overpriced and not enough range. More of a marketing ploy.
fuelsaverMN
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:19:27 PM

to carpenter4u.....if you read this i am with you on your thoughts about the chevy volt.....it is way overpriced and definitely a piece of junk.
ericbcire
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:18:09 PM

EV's are not practical for most consumers.
carpenter4u
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:17:31 PM

The Volt is a piece of junk. That is why NO ONE IS BUYING IT
N4PIP
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:16:53 PM

The Volt has a lot of things going for it. The high price is the only problem. I've shopped at Toyota, Nissan, Chevrolet and Honda lately. Every salesperson was spewing disinformation about the Volt. Things like, "You can't travel more than 40 miles without plugging it in for a charge","The batteries have caught fire under normal use","battery technology isn't ready", blah, blah, blah. I hope to see more plug-in models from many manufacturers. We should be asking why they don't offer them now. The technology exists.
knot2swift
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:16:24 PM

The US needs to screw the government for allowing the sale of refined products to Europe at a higher profit these days.

Government needs to screw the "Merchant" to protect the people or die!
Blue48
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:14:44 PM

WHATEVER!
gmcgas
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:12:12 PM

everyone has a tale, i sit on mine.
agr964
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:10:44 PM

regasaz - Yes, its sad that even though many of us have never been able to purchase a new car for ourselves, we get the privilege to pay 1/4 of the cost of someone else's new car. Sounds like reverse Robin Hood in action.

[Edited by: agr964 at 3/29/2012 10:11:13 PM EST]
FunMyster
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:09:45 PM

OK
regasaz
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:06:57 PM

If these EV's are so great, why do you have to entice buyers with our tax dollars being used for incentives? Quit giving my tax dollars to these people that can afford a new car in the first place.
agr964
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:02:30 PM

jcurley - Yes, this is true. However, being that electric vehicles are so new, early adopters may get stuck with this bill while someone who purchases one in a few years when battery technology has improved may not.
ProRogue
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 10:00:26 PM


And most importantly: tests have proven that driving a Volt (even for extended periods) WILL NOT cause your penis to disappear. This fact, however, remains contrary to popular belief.

..let the redneck wrath begin.
Mowerman08
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:59:10 PM

It still is useful on the golf course.
jcurley
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:59:03 PM

agr964 - I agree one is paying a premium to get the volt. But that is true for every other "NEW" car (and high-tech) idea. However, as you sell more, economies of scale kick in and the price drops.
Cyberkedi
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:56:04 PM

I'm holding out on getting an electric car until Detroit makes one you can drive from Atlanta, GA to Portland, OR in three days.
agr964
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:52:42 PM

If you purchased a Volt, Leaf or other current electric vehicle: congratulations, your money was wasted. $15,000 extra on top of what a normal car costs buys a lot of gas.

In fact, it buys about 3750 gallons at today's prices, which at 30 mpg would take you around the world almost 5 times.

Once you factor in the price of electricity to charge as well, plus replacement battery costs (~$7k-$10k) in 5-7 years, it just doesn't make sense at this time to go electric.



[Edited by: agr964 at 3/29/2012 9:56:10 PM EST]
baconnie
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:52:17 PM

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NorthglennBill
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:51:34 PM

Like I said, so much talk so little action.
jorod55
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:50:08 PM

Again . . . Our government should NOT be in the bailout / loan business.
nj2000ng
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:49:40 PM

Personally, I think the Volt is a very nice car. The only reason the car isn't selling is simply because of the price. It's too expensive. IF GM could find a way to bring the price to the low to mid 20,000s, I'll buy one.
vtroger
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:48:06 PM

November can't get here soon enough.
miiike572
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:47:46 PM

If we drilled our own we could stop getting oil from the mideast and scrap the Volt....everybody wins
Akcamper
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:45:16 PM

SCREWED AGAIN OMG = OBAMA MUST GO!
Wildman14
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:44:43 PM

Okay, what is your point? The Volt is a failure and O'bonehead bailed GM out. Even his friend Imelt at GD couldn't buy enough Volts for GD to make them profitable. GM had to shut the line down. SHOCKER!
tonoplast
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:43:57 PM

From all indirect evidence, the Volt is great. The only problem, and it is a big one, is its price. Otherwise, there would be one in my driveway.
walkingtall
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:37:55 PM

It's wonderful that someone speaks up for that vehicle.
JoeKR
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:37:35 PM

cateyes8264: Do you forget GM actually had an EV on the road in the 80s?
bettersight
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 9:37:32 PM

ok
babugp
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kool
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