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Drawing the Line at Power Lines

New York Times -- AS plans for the Keystone XL pipeline faltered over the last six months, its route through a pristine aquifer in Nebraska proved to be its fatal political flaw. Environmental groups had raised numerous other serious objections.

But, in the popular mind, none stuck like the vision of a big pipe full of thick crude coursing under America’s pristine heartland. When President Obama himself finally denied the Keystone permit last month, he focused on the 1,000-mile pipeline’s passage through the delicate Sand Hills and the Ogallala Aquifer, suggesting he might accept an alternative route.

Officials of TransCanada, seemed perplexed by the traction this particular argument gained, as they toured the United States late last year trying to salvage their ailing $7 billion project.


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Submitted Feb 21, 2012 By: Martinman
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car54BC
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:24:14 PM

When you consider the U.S. already has 2.5 million miles of pipeline in the ground, it does seem strange to oppose another line but keep stalling and the northern pipeline will be built to the west coast and on to Asian markets.
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Oh brother ....
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No?
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:17:56 PM

"Officials of TransCanada, seemed perplexed by the traction this particular argument gained..." Surprised their bribes and bullying didn't work?
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:17:27 PM

"New York Times"
"pristine aquifer"
"serious objections"
"big pipe full of thick crude"
"pristine heartland"
"finally denied"
"delicate Sand Hills"

Nice word choice there, NYT. See what they did there?
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mackconsult
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:15:59 PM

We are all screwed ....
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RichFWA
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:15:07 PM

folks that have never been to the places described in the article should not be allowed to say shit.
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PapaBobP
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:09:36 PM

Isn't the 'Heartland' a mythical thread that....

Oh, nevermind.
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Rednix
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:07:47 PM

Pristine heartland? It's a bunch of huge farms polluting the ground with fertilizer anyway. I don't think the writer has been anywhere close to our nation's heartland.
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I don't read Liberal NYT BS......
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Time for this administration to go and the sooner the better.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:05:14 PM

GasEyes, I'd love to say that you have a good idea there, but I see more SUVs with Obama & other Dem stickers than any GOP stickers. They want to save the environment as long as it doesn't affect their lifestyle. Nevermind I pack my family of 6 into a 6-seat Mazda5 - which, of course, is based on the Corolla-sized Mazda3 and gets me 24 mpg city. But I see all these ex-hippies and Occupy grungie-dirts running around in Land Cruisers, Land Rovers, 4-Runners, and Grand Cherokees getting 13-15 mpg with only 1 person in the vehicle. So effectively, when divided by occupants, I am using a good 10X less gas than they are...& I vote GOP mostly!
Screw the enviros!!!

[Edited by: briandbec at 2/21/2012 12:06:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 12:00:58 PM

Hmm.
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OK
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Count the pipelines we already have. What's one more?
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Wrong. Our stupid President proved to be its fatal flaw. Can't wait until November 2012.
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change administrations.
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Environmentalist will always have something to say.
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vote Odumba out and get the pipeline built!
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Vote Obama out in 2012!!!!!
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I suppose we should all go to gasoline generators, windmills and solar systems just to please a few crack pots.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:50:52 AM

not in my backyard. OK, then how about no electricity?
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:49:38 AM

The environmentalist who oppose power lines and pipelines should volunteer to stop using power and any product from fossil fuels. They should walk to work, and use candles instead of electricity. This will make them realize that it is easy to be a nay sayer. We need more pragmatists, and it should start with the president.

The President should stop playing political football and make the right decision for the sake of the jobs and the well being of the country. For once we need him to show leadership and make the tough choices. So far he just wants to please every one to get reelected. He has to know that pleasing everyone is not possible. Great past presidents made choices that hurts some people but knew that it would benefit the nation as a whole.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:49:36 AM

Tired of this story.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:49:27 AM

There really is no such thing as a "pristine aquifer". Due to the fluctuating levels of the aquifer for Agricultural Use, it is not "pristine".
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:48:50 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:46:57 AM

More politics!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:46:31 AM

na... no superpac... just go the basement and print more... seems to be Nobama's answer to everything....
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Something will happen eventually. I guess more money needs to come into play. Can anyone say SuperPAC?
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:43:09 AM

Like I should it should be re routed to a destination in the midwest that is nowhere near a seaport.
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I'am sure with all of our knowledge it can be done.
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Only 11 months until Obama retires.
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They are more socialist than we are, and may be underestimating how environmental conscious we have become.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:40:14 AM

as the article says, we must get energy from somewhere. It's only a question of where.
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:40:14 AM

I think I have the same thoughts about this as the comment made by uptherefiners.
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if it will work lets do it
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Do the Canadians only care about the environment inside their own borders?
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oba = Idoit
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2012 11:36:47 AM

Route it around the aquifier and get on with the program. Obama will soon be gone and we can get this country back on its feet again.
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Ok
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not OK
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It's all so political!
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The only problem with building a refinery to use this oil is it has to be near or linked to where the product is needed. There are several refined product pipelines connected to the refining hub in Texas. Look up or google "Colonial Pipeline. You will find that it serves the East coast. Starts in Texas.
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do environmental groups ever propose solutions, or do they just know how to b!tch?
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cause of Nobama we owe chinese so much money... are you surprised that they are calling in there debt little by little... Nobama is sending our country to hell in a hand basket...
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Obama clearly hates Americans.
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Let's make it work!
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More NIMBY
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Have any of you Keystone lovers out there realized that a foreign corporation is taking away land from Texas farmers and ranchers using eminent domain for their lovely pipeline to the tax free zone on the Texas coast so the good ole boys can refine the Canadian oil for the export market? Hell, the Chinese might take away your house using eminent domain to build a new condom factory. All that they have to do is to buy enough idiot conservative politicians and your property rights are toast. Do you want your toast medium, well done, or burnt?
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Thanks.
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The HO makes political decisions only and Keystone was a political decision in an election year designed to "kick the can down the road" until after the election when he no longer would have to face the electorate.
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hmmm
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