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JT
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2010 12:01:00 AM

What type of power system for passenger vehicles should be the highest priority for auto companies, the government and universities to focus on developing or improving?
More efficient gasoline engines
More efficient diesel engines
Hydrogen fuel cells
Natural gas
Electric vehicles
Hybrid vehicles
Other (Discuss in the thread)

Post your thoughts about this poll below.
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sonicmustang
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 4:05:17 AM

Hydrogen fuel cells
achung53
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 10:45:34 AM

Hybrid vehicles
Sumflow
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Message Posted: May 14, 2012 7:01:23 AM

Hybrid vehicles like the 918.
googlee
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2011 8:42:03 AM

More efficient gasoline engines
randyt58
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2011 11:47:57 PM

fuel cell
PusaKuting
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2011 5:52:04 PM

more efficient gas engines
HFAJR0034
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2011 6:12:44 PM

better gas eng.
wrunner
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2011 12:32:39 AM

More efficient natural gas engines - specifically public buses.
GamePlayer547
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2010 8:17:02 PM

Drill, baby, drill!
tjpTX
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2010 2:15:13 PM

VELOMOBILES!
bd57
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2010 10:07:35 PM

Hybrid & electric. How about solar?
mrblkdetroit
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2010 2:52:29 AM

Hydrogen fuel cells
Natural gas
Electric vehicles
Hybrid vehicles
radarman
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2010 8:44:25 AM

Hybrid vehicles, followed by electric vehicles.
Don Z
Rookie Author Denver

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2010 11:53:05 AM

One small detail regarding Hydrogen fuel cells and electric cars.....They require electricity. Our power grid is already heavily loaded. Our generating capacity is maxed out much of the time. Much of our electricity comes from fossil fuel....coal.

If we could only harness the hot air generated by politicians, we would be in good shape, but until then, we would essentially have a lot of coal powered cars.
RecountFL
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 11:59:02 PM

Oil won't be around forever. Mostly due to the U.S. 20 billion barrel a day habit.
RecountFL
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 11:56:06 PM

100 years from now, if someone could look through this thread they'd think, "How primitive!"
ctf1000
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 9:58:07 PM

Flintstone mobile
SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 9:56:40 PM

More efficient gasoline engines
RxHugh
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 8:15:44 PM

Hydrogen fuel cells
Bonanza
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 7:32:39 PM

Hydrogen fuel cells
Ziggy1962
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 7:14:57 PM

Hybrid vehicles.
TDIpower
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 6:25:17 PM

Diesel Hybrids are the way of the future. VW has a prototype that gets over a 120mpg. Plus with a diesel you have the ability to use other types of fuel, veggie oil, bio diesel, etc.
OKRifle
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 4:37:06 PM

Get gas efficiency up first! Oh, and forget that ethanol!
chui
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 4:35:15 PM

better gas & better engines
pkhdonovan
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 4:11:23 PM

more efficient gasoline engines.
miner03
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 3:40:58 PM

hydrogen or electric
AlTraveler
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 2:46:12 PM

Hydrogen fuel cells.
jorjab
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 11:39:18 AM

We need to focus on finding technologies which will not deplete the earth's resources, will be relatively inexpensive and are efficient. Too bad there is not a way to harness wind power for fuel for cars. Can you picture an automobile with a windmill on top? :-)
Pizzaslut
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 10:56:35 AM

Engines powered by bio-fuel from lawn clippings
Lengas
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 10:24:38 AM

Hydrogen fuel cells.
pulpwood
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 9:53:33 AM

Hybrids.
jakejj995
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 8:41:22 AM

I think like has been talked about here, the Hydrogen fuel cells are way to expensive to make, maintain and hydrogen manf results in more pollution.

I like the Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) / Hybrid car possibilities. T. Boone Pickens has spend a lot of time and money promoting the CNG for large over-the-road trucks and fleets like garbage and city trucks. There are somewhat good facilities set up in large cities to service this industry, but for the average joe needing CNG its lacking at best.

There are home based products you can use to refill a car if you have NG coming into your home, but it can take up to 8hrs in some cases to refill a tank use on a honda or other smaller car. but he cost is low and for teh around town usage it a good way to go.

A diesel/hybrid make a lot of sense in the long run.. more MPG with diesel out of the gate and couple with elec hybrid technology plus most gas stations have diesel pumps makes for what looks like the best alternative to gas.

I vote for diesel/hybrid

good discussions here for sure.. wish obama administration would read
this..
Ziggy1962
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 7:02:47 AM

Hybrid vehicles.
CrackedLCD
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2010 3:21:35 AM

Development can focus on emerging technologies like electric, but we have clean efficient diesels now that exist in Europe. Ease the pollution restrictions (thank the Sierra Club for our hamfisted diesel regs) and competitively tax diesel fuel as RBob said below and it'll be a good stop-gap measure as we work towards transportation 2.0.
cpanda1121
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 11:20:38 PM

Gasoline is not going to last forever. I think it is important that we find other sources of energy to use for the future
chui
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 10:34:21 PM

better gas milesage...
OKRifle
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 10:14:06 PM

Get with the gas engine efficiency!
RxHugh
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 9:27:30 PM

Hydrogen fuel cells
AByteShort
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 9:14:42 PM

high powered muscle cars
pkhdonovan
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 6:03:13 PM

more efficient gasoline cars
leveit2clever
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 5:28:23 PM

Beer powered engines.
zacksnanny
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 5:22:18 PM

More efficient gasoline engines
Pspeed
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 5:02:58 PM

Compressed air.
pulpwood
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 4:10:18 PM

Hybrids.
RBob
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 3:47:32 PM

Other:
Take tariffs off small clean diesels currently being produced for the European market and competitively tax and market diesel fuel, including bio-diesel in the US and we could be there in relatively short time. Then focus on new technology.

Talking to GM dealers, they could sell many more of the new clean diesel pickups than they can get. WHY?
MAXDXDT
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 12:19:02 PM

Why are there no diesel hybrids?
spheremaker1
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 11:48:35 AM

there has been tremendous advances in recent years... the government needs to quit demanding more changes as they are at the expense of taxpayers. every advance in mpg results in more plastic, more cost and less of choice
to customers of what they actually want. Let the market and company innovation determine what WE really want to spend OUR money on... not government demands. supply and demand does wonders.
Bonanza
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 11:17:35 AM

Hydrogen fuel cells
Toyotatrollop
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 10:01:11 AM

Poop conversion methane engines.
GAC1Shirt
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 8:28:02 AM

Clean diesel technology is already available from Volkswagen and Audi. This needs to be expanded to all diesels. With the better mpg with diesel there is less pollution. Also, diesel is cheaper to refine however is taxed more than gasoline. If it were taxed at the same rate, it would be cheaper than regular. I compared a gas powered Jetta to a diesel Jetta and the savings per year was 1300.00 per www.fueleconomy.gov Diesels really shine in highway mpg and overall average is still better than gas. If you do a lot of city driving, a gas hybrid would be the way to go. I don't see why a diesel hybrid is not available?
Lasing
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2010 8:10:12 AM

Give me American electricity over gas made with foreign oil any day.

It's about choice. I think Electric vehicles have more to do with national and economic security than they do being green (or the myth of global warming) at this point. Don't get me wrong. I like breathing clean air, and drinking clean water, but that is not why I want a Volt.

So most of our electricity is a bit dirty for now. At least it's ours. First, lets stop giving billions of dollars to people that don't like us, then lets work on cleaner electricity from technology such as wind and solar.
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