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Aptera Founders Ousted in Showdown With Auto Vets: Report

Reuters -- The co-founders of Aptera Motors, Steve Fambro and Chris Anthony, did not leave the three-wheeled electric car startup by choice, according to a report this morning over at Wired’s Autopia. Rather, unnamed sources tell the blog that Fambro and Anthony were pushed out in “a boardroom confrontation between the original founders and the auto industry veterans” brought onto the Aptera executive team last year.

Darryl Siry, former marketing chief for electric car startup Tesla Motors, writes that “the first sign of a rift” at the company may have been the design shift Aptera announced shortly after hiring Paul Wilbur as president and CEO in September 2008: Instead of bringing the futuristic-looking 2e (then called the Typ-1) to market by the end of that year, as previously planned, the startup

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DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:11,144 Points:1,652,980 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:10:23 PM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse glad to see other people posting support of diesel hybrids making use of biodiesel. if a diesel can get 60mpg on it's own, a diesel hybrid would have a good shot at getting near 100mpg.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,673 Points:1,506,000 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:20:35 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse This is the way corporations are supposed to opperate. When people screw up, you get rid of them. I propose that the U.S. electorate take action and get rid of all current members of Congress.
RLH68 Champion Author Orlando Posts:3,961 Points:732,000 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:10:30 PM Ignore RLH68 Report Abuse Hydrogen fuel cells are still the best route to go.
nightworker998 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,174 Points:506,240 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:48:40 PM Ignore nightworker998 Report Abuse Not tout it steal what they can use from it then bury it.
Grasshopper53 Champion Author Texas Posts:1,229 Points:175,420 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:43:24 PM Ignore Grasshopper53 Report Abuse I believe the most promising hybrid out there is a diesel/electric one. If we have biodiesel and can make it at home and buy it. Then, as I have here, a wind generator, you would be set up.
fightbigoil71 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:5,206 Points:1,087,835 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:36:02 PM Ignore fightbigoil71 Report Abuse The diesel electric hybrid sounds intriguing. Too bad there are personal problems there.
waynemustang Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,661 Points:1,236,205 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:35:50 PM Ignore waynemustang Report Abuse Aptera is failing, too.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:13,850 Points:2,722,690 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:31:20 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse A diesel-electric hybrid, could be a real fuel saver!
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:5,731 Points:1,126,665 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:30:19 PM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse This really sound like a personal problem.
Goatroper Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,673 Points:911,470 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:21:58 PM Ignore Goatroper Report Abuse I liked one of the options they were going to field. A diesel electric hybrid. Where a diesel engine powered an electric generator to power the drive.
ToriB All-Star Author Washington Posts:967 Points:144,205 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:12:43 PM Ignore ToriB Report Abuse Lets face it, any small company that comes up with a really great "green car" will be bought out by one of the larger companies & they'll either tout it as their own or kill it.
hwmillerster Champion Author Missouri Posts:4,429 Points:1,004,345 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:09:07 PM Ignore hwmillerster Report Abuse You have quite a lot of this in new, startup companies. Once they get big there becomes a stated order of succession. This particular company may not live to see that.
rocket_up Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,365 Points:328,335 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:06:32 PM Ignore rocket_up Report Abuse Huh?
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,953 Points:1,323,635 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:06:19 PM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse Does this really matter in the grand scheme of economies? Think not...
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Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,021 Points:1,215,535 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 6:05:49 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse What does this have to do with Gas Buddy? I don't see where it effects the price I pay for gas.
K1500 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,055 Points:187,170 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:57:20 PM Ignore K1500 Report Abuse This is false rumor started by the media, as typical. They're just taking time off according to Popular Mechanics.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,920 Points:1,424,930 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:35:34 PM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse looks like the trend
Rednix Champion Author Miami Posts:3,879 Points:813,770 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:02:45 PM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse Sounds like its time to start over for Fambro and Anthony.
Dipstick1 Champion Author Amarillo Posts:6,621 Points:1,759,885 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:00:19 PM Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse Nothing like a good cat fight!
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:6,112 Points:1,161,400 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:47:34 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Once they get their act together that's the article I want to read.
skyhawkcam All-Star Author Richmond Posts:983 Points:553,315 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:44:53 PM Ignore skyhawkcam Report Abuse Sorry , but 3 wheeled electric vehicles? Maybe great for commuters, but let's be practical.
brus282 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,659 Points:953,210 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:37:35 PM Ignore brus282 Report Abuse have not heard of these people and not sure of the significance of this as it relates to today's happenings
EricON Veteran Author Ontario Posts:344 Points:636,440 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:37:27 PM Ignore EricON Report Abuse Blah Blah Blah
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:6,345 Points:1,171,085 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:28:37 PM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse pulling stories out of goofy land now.Sounds like a re make of an old story.
papagreg Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,527 Points:512,700 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:12:38 PM Ignore papagreg Report Abuse And exactly why is this interesting or germain to the purpose of this site?
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:7,175 Points:1,027,995 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:12:19 PM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse Sounds like they have shorts in their shorts.
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esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:6,082 Points:1,573,875 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:01:33 PM Ignore esquared Report Abuse Good ol' unfettered capitalism!
KarateDude Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,815 Points:543,510 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:01:27 PM Ignore KarateDude Report Abuse Never heard of them before....will probably never hear of them again...
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:3,985 Points:835,090 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:57:11 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse I'll stick with my SUV.........
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,421 Points:745,990 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:54:49 PM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse With the stimulus $ taken by Tesla & Fisker and Biden throwing in a closed GM auto plant in Del the US is footing the bill for companies outside the US. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are pushing plug-ins because of the massive Trade&Cap taxes that will add $ to the treasury. Batteries are not perfected yet. Internal problems at Aptera are because of a 3 wheel vehicle; 3 wheel golf carts and ATV were taken out of service because of the high rates of accidents. What about our NSTB saying 3-wheelers are extremely dangerous and unstable on the highways. Funny how this is political. DOE has put $ Millions toward grants, low interest loans, & loan guarantees........we will be socked with more debt. [Edited by: BobbyVA at 11/18/2009 3:58:16 PM EST]
greywolves Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:6,437 Points:1,990,020 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:53:43 PM Ignore greywolves Report Abuse it happened to henry ford, in a marketing battle over whether to target wealthy customers or the common consumer. ford lost that battle. formed a new company two tears later and rest they say, is history.
saturn96 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:633 Points:147,565 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:51:40 PM Ignore saturn96 Report Abuse Well said myambro
montytexas Champion Author Houston Posts:1,888 Points:1,075,655 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:51:26 PM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Obviously did not own enough stock to control the board with friends...
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:2,168 Points:363,840 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:49:53 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse loo9ks like the auto industry vets are of the mind set, "we have always done it this way and we will always get the same results." got to think outside of the box with some new ideas to get different results. prime example GM. and their old ways which drove them down the tubes.
tom11743 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,740 Points:423,495 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:48:08 PM Ignore tom11743 Report Abuse These things happen all the time in business.
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:11,074 Points:2,250,550 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:41:09 PM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse A new concept for Detroit to swallow and learn. Work out the bugs before selling to the consumer. Good idea.
HDRJR Veteran Author Boise Posts:364 Points:185,045 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:41:05 PM Ignore HDRJR Report Abuse Just another choice in the alternative market. I bet those guys are p.o.'d.
myambro Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,101 Points:660,015 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:36:32 PM Ignore myambro Report Abuse Sounds like the Detroit professionals are gonna drive this company out of business before it even gets started. But, I bet those execs will make millions.
bbud69 Sophomore Author Albany Posts:118 Points:596,590 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:34:33 PM Ignore bbud69 Report Abuse who would thunk of that smart very smart
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:6,304 Points:1,332,780 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:32:16 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Wow Stealing another persons dreams Sounds like our government
jppezz Champion Author New Mexico Posts:6,225 Points:1,224,605 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:25:16 PM Ignore jppezz Report Abuse That must have been fun.
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:6,038 Points:1,913,470 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:20:58 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Glad I wan't there, bet it was a holy mess.
cj003 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,861 Points:1,166,195 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:17:56 PM Ignore cj003 Report Abuse one way to go out of business
VetteBlue Champion Author San Jose Posts:7,690 Points:1,541,935 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:13:42 PM Ignore VetteBlue Report Abuse Sounds like chaos to me. Not a good sign for success.
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:5,977 Points:1,363,195 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:06:45 PM Ignore mplato Report Abuse electric companies are loving all the talk about electric cars!
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,793 Points:1,272,305 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:01:32 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse Wow this article will help us solve our problems with oil, NOT!
billsandi Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,572 Points:1,408,225 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:01:12 PM Ignore billsandi Report Abuse That's "show biz." But I expect the car to go on.
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:19,360 Points:1,209,390 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:00:53 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse Well...this certainly was a long and boring story. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz