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Aptera Founders Ousted in Showdown With Auto Vets: Report

Reuters -- The co-founders of Aptera Motors, Steve Fambro and Chris Anthony, did not leave the three-wheeled electric car startup by choice, according to a report this morning over at Wired’s Autopia. Rather, unnamed sources tell the blog that Fambro and Anthony were pushed out in “a boardroom confrontation between the original founders and the auto industry veterans” brought onto the Aptera executive team last year.

Darryl Siry, former marketing chief for electric car startup Tesla Motors, writes that “the first sign of a rift” at the company may have been the design shift Aptera announced shortly after hiring Paul Wilbur as president and CEO in September 2008: Instead of bringing the futuristic-looking 2e (then called the Typ-1) to market by the end of that year, as previously planned, the startup

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DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,115 Points:974,985 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:10:23 PM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse glad to see other people posting support of diesel hybrids making use of biodiesel. if a diesel can get 60mpg on it's own, a diesel hybrid would have a good shot at getting near 100mpg.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,227 Points:825,395 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:20:35 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse This is the way corporations are supposed to opperate. When people screw up, you get rid of them. I propose that the U.S. electorate take action and get rid of all current members of Congress.
RLH68 Champion Author Orlando Posts:3,961 Points:732,000 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:10:30 PM Ignore RLH68 Report Abuse Hydrogen fuel cells are still the best route to go.
nightworker998 Veteran Author Maryland Posts:486 Points:204,950 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:48:40 PM Ignore nightworker998 Report Abuse Not tout it steal what they can use from it then bury it.
Grasshopper53 Champion Author Texas Posts:1,149 Points:158,685 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:43:24 PM Ignore Grasshopper53 Report Abuse I believe the most promising hybrid out there is a diesel/electric one. If we have biodiesel and can make it at home and buy it. Then, as I have here, a wind generator, you would be set up.
fightbigoil71 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:1,981 Points:428,480 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:36:02 PM Ignore fightbigoil71 Report Abuse The diesel electric hybrid sounds intriguing. Too bad there are personal problems there.
waynemustang Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,506 Points:690,710 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:35:50 PM Ignore waynemustang Report Abuse Aptera is failing, too.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:10,460 Points:2,050,230 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:31:20 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse A diesel-electric hybrid, could be a real fuel saver!
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,825 Points:454,495 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:30:19 PM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse This really sound like a personal problem.
Goatroper Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,183 Points:246,840 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:21:58 PM Ignore Goatroper Report Abuse I liked one of the options they were going to field. A diesel electric hybrid. Where a diesel engine powered an electric generator to power the drive.
ToriB All-Star Author Washington Posts:768 Points:107,380 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:12:43 PM Ignore ToriB Report Abuse Lets face it, any small company that comes up with a really great "green car" will be bought out by one of the larger companies & they'll either tout it as their own or kill it.
hwmillerster All-Star Author Missouri Posts:967 Points:324,085 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:09:07 PM Ignore hwmillerster Report Abuse You have quite a lot of this in new, startup companies. Once they get big there becomes a stated order of succession. This particular company may not live to see that.
rocket_up Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,365 Points:328,335 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:06:32 PM Ignore rocket_up Report Abuse Huh?
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,459 Points:659,540 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:06:19 PM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse Does this really matter in the grand scheme of economies? Think not...
eagleeye2008 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:3,114 Points:587,140 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:02:51 PM Ignore eagleeye2008 Report Abuse MUCH TOO DIFFICULT TO COMMENT ON "B.S. !!
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:2,633 Points:538,495 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 6:05:49 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse What does this have to do with Gas Buddy? I don't see where it effects the price I pay for gas.
K1500 Champion Author Birmingham Posts:1,054 Points:176,000 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:57:20 PM Ignore K1500 Report Abuse This is false rumor started by the media, as typical. They're just taking time off according to Popular Mechanics.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,632 Points:1,020,595 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:35:34 PM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse looks like the trend
Rednix All-Star Author Miami Posts:888 Points:188,510 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:02:45 PM Ignore Rednix Report Abuse Sounds like its time to start over for Fambro and Anthony.
Dipstick1 Champion Author Amarillo Posts:4,219 Points:1,302,715 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:00:19 PM Ignore Dipstick1 Report Abuse Nothing like a good cat fight!
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:2,650 Points:477,325 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:47:34 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Once they get their act together that's the article I want to read.
skyhawkcam All-Star Author Richmond Posts:973 Points:422,265 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:44:53 PM Ignore skyhawkcam Report Abuse Sorry , but 3 wheeled electric vehicles? Maybe great for commuters, but let's be practical.
brus282 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,390 Points:893,705 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:37:35 PM Ignore brus282 Report Abuse have not heard of these people and not sure of the significance of this as it relates to today's happenings
EricON Sophomore Author Ontario Posts:232 Points:97,000 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:37:27 PM Ignore EricON Report Abuse Blah Blah Blah
nemoFL Champion Author Florida Posts:3,239 Points:501,880 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:35:38 PM Ignore nemoFL Report Abuse are we really interested
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,768 Points:491,130 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:28:37 PM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse pulling stories out of goofy land now.Sounds like a re make of an old story.
papagreg Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,527 Points:512,700 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:12:38 PM Ignore papagreg Report Abuse And exactly why is this interesting or germain to the purpose of this site?
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:3,813 Points:617,225 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:12:19 PM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse Sounds like they have shorts in their shorts.
pdcarver All-Star Author San Diego Posts:886 Points:170,490 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:05:59 PM Ignore pdcarver Report Abuse Inside dirty laundry.
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,243 Points:1,000,070 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:01:33 PM Ignore esquared Report Abuse Good ol' unfettered capitalism!
KarateDude Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,300 Points:240,335 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 4:01:27 PM Ignore KarateDude Report Abuse Never heard of them before....will probably never hear of them again...
bababooey2 All-Star Author Hartford Posts:600 Points:151,765 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:57:11 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse I'll stick with my SUV.........
BobbyVA All-Star Author Virginia Beach Posts:711 Points:150,705 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:54:49 PM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse With the stimulus $ taken by Tesla & Fisker and Biden throwing in a closed GM auto plant in Del the US is footing the bill for companies outside the US. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are pushing plug-ins because of the massive Trade&Cap taxes that will add $ to the treasury. Batteries are not perfected yet. Internal problems at Aptera are because of a 3 wheel vehicle; 3 wheel golf carts and ATV were taken out of service because of the high rates of accidents. What about our NSTB saying 3-wheelers are extremely dangerous and unstable on the highways. Funny how this is political. DOE has put $ Millions toward grants, low interest loans, & loan guarantees........we will be socked with more debt. [Edited by: BobbyVA at 11/18/2009 3:58:16 PM EST]
greywolves Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:3,318 Points:1,376,030 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:53:43 PM Ignore greywolves Report Abuse it happened to henry ford, in a marketing battle over whether to target wealthy customers or the common consumer. ford lost that battle. formed a new company two tears later and rest they say, is history.
saturn96 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:628 Points:146,490 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:51:40 PM Ignore saturn96 Report Abuse Well said myambro
montytexas Champion Author Houston Posts:1,034 Points:591,695 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:51:26 PM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Obviously did not own enough stock to control the board with friends...
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,102 Points:194,145 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:49:53 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse loo9ks like the auto industry vets are of the mind set, "we have always done it this way and we will always get the same results." got to think outside of the box with some new ideas to get different results. prime example GM. and their old ways which drove them down the tubes.
tom11743 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,740 Points:420,270 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:48:08 PM Ignore tom11743 Report Abuse These things happen all the time in business.
Lengas Champion Author Gary Posts:7,425 Points:1,566,275 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:41:09 PM Ignore Lengas Report Abuse A new concept for Detroit to swallow and learn. Work out the bugs before selling to the consumer. Good idea.
HDRJR Veteran Author Boise Posts:288 Points:71,700 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:41:05 PM Ignore HDRJR Report Abuse Just another choice in the alternative market. I bet those guys are p.o.'d.
myambro All-Star Author Sacramento Posts:844 Points:372,315 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:36:32 PM Ignore myambro Report Abuse Sounds like the Detroit professionals are gonna drive this company out of business before it even gets started. But, I bet those execs will make millions.
bbud69 Sophomore Author Albany Posts:111 Points:350,450 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:34:33 PM Ignore bbud69 Report Abuse who would thunk of that smart very smart
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,485 Points:764,540 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:32:16 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Wow Stealing another persons dreams Sounds like our government
jppezz Champion Author New Mexico Posts:2,749 Points:541,100 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:25:16 PM Ignore jppezz Report Abuse That must have been fun.
repeater1 Champion Author Kansas Posts:2,577 Points:1,229,485 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:20:58 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Glad I wan't there, bet it was a holy mess.
cj003 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,191 Points:902,485 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:17:56 PM Ignore cj003 Report Abuse one way to go out of business
VetteBlue Champion Author San Jose Posts:4,731 Points:973,670 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:13:42 PM Ignore VetteBlue Report Abuse Sounds like chaos to me. Not a good sign for success.
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,477 Points:862,605 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:06:45 PM Ignore mplato Report Abuse electric companies are loving all the talk about electric cars!
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,368 Points:594,355 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:01:32 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse Wow this article will help us solve our problems with oil, NOT!
billsandi Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,572 Points:1,408,125 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:01:12 PM Ignore billsandi Report Abuse That's "show biz." But I expect the car to go on.