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Gas Drilling Is Called Safe in New York

The New York Times -- The state’s Health Department found in an analysis it prepared early last year that the much-debated drilling technology known as hydrofracking could be conducted safely in New York, according to a copy obtained by The New York Times from an expert who did not believe it should be kept secret.

The analysis and other health assessments have been closely guarded by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and his administration as the governor weighs whether to approve fracking. Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, has long delayed making a decision, unnerved in part by strident opposition on his party’s left. A plan to allow a limited amount of fracking in the state’s Southern Tier along the Pennsylvania border is still seen as the most likely outcome, should the drilling process receive final approval.

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Submitted Jan 03, 2013 By: NOTSOGRN

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 4:50:36 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse endy: I agree. The man is neither a scientist nor honest w/ his people. Too long in politics already.
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:969 Points:198,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 9:35:31 AM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Fracking is NOT safe - Cuomo can be bought for the right price, just like any other politician.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,496 Points:1,271,125 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 9:03:51 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Who expects politicians to be objective?
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:9,159 Points:778,875 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 8:44:21 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse LOL, no wonder Cuomo felt he had to hide these findings!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,592 Points:2,373,210 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 3:09:55 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Gas Drilling Is Called Safe in New York? What are they thinking? There already are areas in New York that have severe ground water problems. What next? Horizontal natural gas drilling, more rock and subsurface fracking and possible pollution to the underground water resources. What happens when the ground water is deemed Not Safe and Unfit for drinking? Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. Big Gas transports natural gas to the refineries, processes it, loads it onto tankers for the sale to other countries. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! These resources are Not to be exported without taking care of the domestic market first. As more and more vehicles are converted to natural gas the price of natural gas will go up and up, natural gas will Not have a reasonable price for very long. Keep natural gas for heating homes and businesses. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
SHEP20715 Champion Author Maryland Posts:8,612 Points:1,742,055 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 2:31:46 AM Ignore SHEP20715 Report Abuse IT is not necessarily safe in NY or anywhere else for that matter Safe drinking water is far more important
MrPony Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:438 Points:413,400 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:43:40 AM Ignore MrPony Report Abuse If it's safe in NY, why not Alaska?
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:27:04 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse @pissedatthepump -- don't forget that all the people on here that are all in for it ONLY want cheap gas they don't care. people have always had a price they would sell out for -- just gets lower and lower
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,621 Points:2,129,715 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:25:29 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Go ahead and frack.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:24:27 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse @Pissedatthepump .... BINGO ! ! ! !
naspa Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,412 Points:379,625 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:19:10 AM Ignore naspa Report Abuse Of course is safe. The people that lit their water on fire are wonder workers. They were directly blessed by divinity with marvelous powers to make fun of us on YouTube.
PissedATthePump All-Star Author Pennsylvania Posts:507 Points:119,580 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:17:50 AM Ignore PissedATthePump Report Abuse @ Aviator Rob: My answer to the question of "Why would anyone be okay with that kind of uncertainty". Because the land men and drillers sell the DREAM that fracking will make everyone in town a millionaire. Signing all these folks up with leases creates the political will to move ahead with drilling. The reality is that the directional drilling on these wells can bypass the gas lease holdouts as well as the greedy who made better deals for themselves.(no check for you) ...and the gas still flows to market.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,858 Points:415,675 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:12:06 AM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Pretty soon it will be safe everywhere.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,301 Points:1,956,230 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:11:44 AM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Another reason not to live in New York.
wshokie12 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,455 Points:244,035 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:10:18 AM Ignore wshokie12 Report Abuse Safe you say...
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,633 Points:1,537,310 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:07:19 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse Glad I don't live there.
regasaz Champion Author Phoenix Posts:5,779 Points:1,300,035 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:06:36 AM Ignore regasaz Report Abuse Surprise, Surprise.
Jmac2008 Champion Author Missouri Posts:2,411 Points:907,865 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:06:33 AM Ignore Jmac2008 Report Abuse i am not sure that it is really safe anywhere.
RichWLIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,250 Points:666,565 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:06:17 AM Ignore RichWLIN Report Abuse I guess they didn't see the new Matt Damon movie?
Ferdman17 Champion Author Albany Posts:1,420 Points:401,785 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:03:52 AM Ignore Ferdman17 Report Abuse Gee how about that!
CDMAuto Champion Author Connecticut Posts:3,932 Points:781,555 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:03:42 AM Ignore CDMAuto Report Abuse go for it
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:03:27 AM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse I am a NYer too and rudy did all he could to turn it into disney too. people dont know how unpopular he was before that terrible day when he showed amazing leadership.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,681 Points:689,900 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:03:10 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse How about that.
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,677 Points:1,886,070 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:03:04 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Only in NY?
cheaper0ON Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,123 Points:425,755 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:02:35 AM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Good.
DriverMatt Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:15,492 Points:2,000,000 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:02:19 AM Ignore DriverMatt Report Abuse Yeah right.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,832 Points:565,745 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:02:17 AM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Only at 16 oz's or less! :)
gcalleja Champion Author Miami Posts:1,049 Points:577,445 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:02:05 AM Ignore gcalleja Report Abuse Politics vs. science.
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,954 Points:2,107,475 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:01:27 AM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Get Fracking!
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,408 Points:1,586,615 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:00:00 AM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse It Is!!
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:59:44 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Sorry to disappoint, @gsayeg1, but no more hookers on 42nd Street. Disney took care of all that.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:58:55 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse me either - keep up the good fight... use logic and facts and EVENTUALLY some may see the light.
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:58:02 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse or even use up the rest of the worlds oil before needing to do this. it could be our safety net until other sources of energy are viable but people only think about today and tomorrow and no further.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:57:48 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse I'm not ready to give up the good fight, @WanderDan. That's what the faux conservatives want. To just have the other side give up and go home. As long as I'm still breathing, I have a dog in this fight.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:55:11 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse @WanderDan is right. And besides, why is everyone in such a hurry to start drilling? The faster we drill, the faster all of the shale gas will be gone. It's not an unlimited resource. Let the other states conduct this experiment on their drinking water while New York sits back and watches the results. In 10 years, Pennsylvania will be out of shale gas and New York will have just begun drilling, with even better technology and safeguards.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:879 Points:151,515 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:54:44 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse safe????? Drilling on 42nd St. - what about the hookers????? Don't worry they will have a special for every 6" inches you drill you get the same with them
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:54:15 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse @ Aviator Rob... i think it is a losing battle to try to make sense with far too many people on here or sadly in our entire society. Faux news tells them anything that slows business in anyway is too liberal. While most have been convinced to side with a party that gives them "villians" to blame but don't realize they vote against their best interests. I mean you come on here and there is even alink saying obama is coming for your guns.... [Edited by: WanderDan at 1/3/2013 11:57:21 PM EST]
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,797 Points:2,387,670 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:51:02 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse Safe, I am thinking it is going to be a long time before we know. We thought strip coal mining was safe long ago.
FogCitySpotter Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,620 Points:548,540 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:49:30 PM Ignore FogCitySpotter Report Abuse Ok
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,852 Points:441,965 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:47:08 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Safe? For Who ??
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:603 Points:161,535 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:45:44 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse Cellsite says "Nothing in this world is completely safe. Just being born is 100% fatal. Keep on drillin'... " That is basically saying oh well roll the dice since nothing is completely safe. WOW! Don't do any further research just keep on drillin.... just a matter of picking a political side and then close your eyes.
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,388 Points:2,093,880 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:45:40 PM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse Well, if it's so safe, why don't they start drilling while the rest of us sit back and watch what happens?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:44:12 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Wow, @swkcpi, what a convincing argument! You really stated your case there.
Prodaddy Champion Author Houston Posts:8,516 Points:1,921,910 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:44:04 PM Ignore Prodaddy Report Abuse It is safe today, but what about tomorrow
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:42:27 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse @clermont40miles, you seem to have an extreme hatred for anyone or anything even remotely associated with the environment. Have you ever thought about why? It seems almost completely irrational and knee-jerk.
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,439 Points:625,320 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:40:37 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse i still think frackers should hav to test wells in a 5 mile radius from where they plan to drill to establish a baseline. all states are looking @ is tax revenues.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:40:11 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Have to disagree, @ManOfLeisureII. In this matter, I don't believe that people are being too risk averse. The stakes are just too high. A clean and functioning aquifer is far more valuable than any shale gas that can be pulled from the ground. Why is it that it's the most important things that we take most for granted, like clean air and water?
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,480 Points:1,826,365 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:39:35 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse Until something goes wrong.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,618 Points:1,738,435 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:35:46 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse this has got to be somewhat of a concern to the environmentalists
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,985 Points:440,590 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:34:46 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse The analysis also rejects a broad quantitative risk assessment of fracking — the kind of study that would try to project the probability of various hazards — saying it would “involve making a large number of assumptions about the many scenario-specific variables that influence the nature and degree of potential human exposure and toxicity.” So, basically, nobody knows what the effects of hydrofracking could do to the water, the land, and the people that live in these areas of fracking activity. Why would anyone be okay with that kind of uncertainty, especially those who could be impacted?