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Natural gas the clean, cheap option for cars

Wyoming News -- CHEYENNE -- Imagine a vehicle that emits 30 percent less emissions and costs a third less at the pump.

The technology is available. Natural gas already heats about 60 million U.S. homes. More than 150,000 natural-gas-powered vehicles already traverse the nation's roadways.

The average fueling station can't accommodate a natural-gas vehicle, but that could change if more consumers demand cleaner alternatives, said Randy Teeuwen, community relations advisor for EnCana Oil and Gas.

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kenjamin5150 Rookie Author Lincoln Posts:6 Points:1,450 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:16:59 AM Ignore kenjamin5150 Report Abuse And as soon as we have a high number of cars requiring natural gas as fuel, the price will go up because the demand for it has gone up.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:26:36 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse it might even help curb the inner city / town racing and the idiots trying to kill others on two lane country roads who pass when there's no room to pass.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:24:32 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Bestworld: when you can't drive more than 70mph on any road in the US, why do we need power? Ain't like you can go 160 mph..
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,252 Points:1,141,025 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:23:55 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Wishing everyone a happy and safe 4th of July and thank you to all military folks who make another safe one possible.
Bestworld Veteran Author San Jose Posts:390 Points:104,790 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:21:09 AM Ignore Bestworld Report Abuse Not a bad alternative fuel but I understand it's noticeably more sluggish than gasoline, ie, less power.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,987 Points:766,010 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:12:01 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I love it when posters make comments but can't support their assertions when asked! Seems like a kid being caught with their hand in the cookie jar.
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,028 Points:1,374,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:58:43 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse Looks like I will have the last word on this subject.
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,028 Points:1,374,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:53:09 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse Some people are afraid of natural gas thinking it will blow-up thier house.
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,028 Points:1,374,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:49:55 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse The US has vast amounts of natural gas. Just have to get at it.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,987 Points:766,010 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:40:37 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse archerdave from Detroit... What do you mean "in the winter we have to import it" (NG)? Is there something I need to know about NG? [Edited by: LetemEatCake at 7/3/2009 7:41:01 AM EST]
BH24 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:4,930 Points:1,116,675 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:35:57 AM Ignore BH24 Report Abuse One likely problem will almost certainly be that buying one of those vehicles will probably cost around $60,000. Unless they're able to be mass produced at affordable prices, the chief value of those things is as article material for Popular Mechanics Magizine.
granma3xnow Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,998 Points:410,675 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:35:09 AM Ignore granma3xnow Report Abuse Ok, will they move forward with this?
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,028 Points:1,374,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:34:52 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse Buses in CA have been running on natural gas for years.
kookiwoogi Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,433 Points:2,327,555 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:34:42 AM Ignore kookiwoogi Report Abuse Then do it.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,987 Points:766,010 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:34:13 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse lpj from Georgia... Do you have citations for your comment? Who? Where? What? When? Hard to draw a conclusion without information!
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:36,063 Points:3,157,295 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:30:08 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse It doesn't really say that it's cleaner and cheaper TO DO THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK.
JustjoeWI Veteran Author Milwaukee Posts:400 Points:275,315 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:30:06 AM Ignore JustjoeWI Report Abuse Why is this even brought up ? It will never happen
Rick01 Champion Author Utah Posts:6,634 Points:1,907,465 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:26:42 AM Ignore Rick01 Report Abuse Conversions run between $3000 & $5000 to have therm done right. Who can afford that in this recession??
foxups Champion Author Toledo Posts:3,252 Points:645,060 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:26:37 AM Ignore foxups Report Abuse plenty of other options that we can use
turbosaab Champion Author Cleveland Posts:14,937 Points:1,945,015 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:26:35 AM Ignore turbosaab Report Abuse Natural gas is still a fossil fuel.
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,071 Points:2,752,030 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:23:40 AM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse And who might I ask is going to pay for all of the conversions to the vehicles currently on the road?
goldilox88 Champion Author Montreal Posts:4,059 Points:1,000,000 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:23:21 AM Ignore goldilox88 Report Abuse an old story. Bring it to the consumer at an efficient price... in my lifetime.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:6,100 Points:1,122,400 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:21:46 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse I would be all for it if it's cleaner and more fuel efficient. [Edited by: PaylessKY at 7/3/2009 7:22:42 AM EST]
dave364 Champion Author Lansing Posts:3,198 Points:1,007,320 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:20:37 AM Ignore dave364 Report Abuse it is a source of clean fuel why not
mdmtnbiker Champion Author District of Columbia Posts:1,619 Points:330,885 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:17:22 AM Ignore mdmtnbiker Report Abuse Let's do it.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:8,583 Points:1,700,640 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:16:15 AM Ignore lpj Report Abuse some companies here was converting to natural gas they have stopped i wonder why ?
biza4u Champion Author New Haven Posts:6,172 Points:1,163,885 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:15:50 AM Ignore biza4u Report Abuse I am sure the tree huggers will have a say about that
tankneverfull Champion Author Charlotte Posts:6,364 Points:1,299,015 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:09:14 AM Ignore tankneverfull Report Abuse Natural gas seems to work and we have accessible supplies, why not.
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:5,414 Points:1,079,590 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:04:33 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Hardly anybody is buying the GM and Chrysler regular gas vehicles, so these would sell?
DTGas Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,132 Points:428,680 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:00:33 AM Ignore DTGas Report Abuse I can't afford my own gas from my own BEANS, let alone gas prices we have now.
epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:3,943 Points:1,425,205 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:57:57 AM Ignore epf Report Abuse Rob Peter to pay Paul, NOT
Ringmaster2008 Champion Author Ontario Posts:5,333 Points:841,205 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:56:47 AM Ignore Ringmaster2008 Report Abuse It's still fossil fuel
Prescottonian Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,183 Points:527,395 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:55:57 AM Ignore Prescottonian Report Abuse Let's do this!
Doubleeez Champion Author Connecticut Posts:5,080 Points:908,695 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:54:40 AM Ignore Doubleeez Report Abuse If those statistics are true, let's go for it.
fratt Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,489 Points:2,178,305 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:54:39 AM Ignore fratt Report Abuse If we started to use natural gas for our cars then their would be a natural gas shortage. And of cours the prices would go sky high.
bigmaninarig Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,142 Points:563,645 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:48:15 AM Ignore bigmaninarig Report Abuse We have several Metro buses that are powered by Compressed Natural Gas (CNG).
AvantiMick Champion Author Indiana Posts:10,512 Points:2,095,785 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:48:03 AM Ignore AvantiMick Report Abuse IF..we had NG cars, and IF...we had stations to get it, most of us would be using it. Just telling us how good it would be, someone needs to get cars and gas on the market.
NJColt Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,350 Points:2,179,360 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:43:46 AM Ignore NJColt Report Abuse and I get letters in the mail saying natural gas plants use petroleum, so it was a reason I had a hike in my natural gas bill. Let's not forget the delivery fees, commodity fees, hazmat fees... you see, once they got you - YOU PAY!!
nstrdnvstr Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:33,453 Points:3,522,205 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:37:26 AM Ignore nstrdnvstr Report Abuse Why do most people who push this forget the law of supply and demand?
QueenMother Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:5,179 Points:1,702,190 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:36:01 AM Ignore QueenMother Report Abuse I'll stick to gas as I'm not a fan of natural gas.
doncNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:5,189 Points:1,043,095 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:35:42 AM Ignore doncNJ Report Abuse this is T boones dream
Jamer Champion Author Orange County Posts:6,387 Points:1,176,310 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:21:57 AM Ignore Jamer Report Abuse If everyone started using natural gas, prices would shoot through the roof again. I don't think people would care to see these prices jump up and down like a ping pong ball.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,775 Points:1,168,555 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:21:11 AM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse will take lots of time and money to put in infrastructure, but if it takes place of crappy ethanol, just do it.
JNewkirk All-Star Author Arkansas Posts:809 Points:618,805 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:18:12 AM Ignore JNewkirk Report Abuse Natural gas is clean, sure, but cheap? Not in my neck of the woods. We have the headquarters of one major pipeline company here in my part of Ky., and our natural gas supplier (Atmos Energy) likes to charge plenty. And our friends just across the river in Indiana have to deal with Vectren Corporation, an electric/gas utility which has proven its ability to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to bilk more cash out of their customers, up to and including bulldozing a perfectly sound and attractive 20-year-old riverfront apartment high rise to build a multi-million-dollar office tower they absolutely, positively did not need. I've no problem with profit. It's greed I get pissed off about. And we've got the greed right here.
artyboy Champion Author Miami Posts:4,731 Points:1,054,980 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:17:53 AM Ignore artyboy Report Abuse hope so
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:5,535 Points:1,148,760 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:16:17 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse I may be stubborn, but I will stick to gas.
westover Champion Author New Jersey Posts:11,126 Points:2,181,865 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:08:18 AM Ignore westover Report Abuse I believe so.
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,437 Points:1,998,630 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:40:34 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse Stations switched to E-85 to stay in the times, and profit is what its all about, so they will switch to accommodate.
theawesome1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:6,967 Points:1,302,310 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:38:22 AM Ignore theawesome1 Report Abuse Paying $8.90 per MCG for natural gas. What that means gallon wise for a car? CLE RTA bus line was natural gas with their CLEAN AIR buses & that lasted 6 months and they are back to diesel with the black smoke on the clean air bus.
BM4225 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,916 Points:1,666,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:33:14 AM Ignore BM4225 Report Abuse Now just think about Hybrids with engines powered either by natural gas, or diesel engines. Then you would really get impressive MPG.