honda0105

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2012 8:49:18 AM
GoGo: at least in what scientists can read, there has never been such a drastic overall rise in the climate's overall temperature. At the rate we're going, lots of places will be underwater in our lifetimes. Remember Kevin Costner...
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1006

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2012 8:23:09 AM
what is it you mean
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sparky808

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 1:31:46 PM
LOL niceguytx.
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niceguytx

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 11:00:17 AM
I hope it bursts soon.
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pbug101

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 8:59:35 AM
ok
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mrpc90

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 8:47:20 AM
Yet another Obama hoax.
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cbuck80

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 2:53:31 AM
ok
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cbuck80

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 2:49:19 AM
ok
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cbuck80

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 2:39:42 AM
ok
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TWS658

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 2:17:32 AM
We are in the warming part of the cycle.
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GoGoGoodyear

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:35:13 AM
So is this anything like the Great Real Estate Bubble?
On a serious note; The earth's environment has changed many time over millions of years and science has already shown that this happens in regular and predictable cycles. What if the changes we are seeing now are just the next cycle? Maybe our use of fossil fuels contributes a bit to this but what if the weather changes we see are the next unavoidable cycle? If so, how are we to prevent the planet from doing what it has done so predictably many times before?
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badspots

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:13:12 AM
Ok.
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OGW

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:13:11 AM
The oil and the tobacco industry are not comparable in the same way!
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jetskijerry

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:11:03 AM
oil will sink us all.
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DOS

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:07:27 AM
McGibbon asked rhetorically, "Why doesn’t it [the oil industry] fold the way the tobacco industry eventually did? I'm surprised he doesn't already know the answer, since he seems to have read Naomi Oreskes book, "Merchants of Doubt."
The Tobacco Industry didn't just decide to "do the right thing" one day. They didn't have much choice. Most of the largest tobacco companies were found "guilty of conspiracy to commit fraud--massive and on going fraud to deceive the American public about the health effects of smoking." - "Merchants of DOUBT" page 15
The Tobacco companies had even hired public relations firms to help spread their lies and misconceptions; to attack the Science that established the links between tobacco smoking and cancer and other ill-health effects.
The "Strategy" used by the Tobacco industry, to mislead the public was proven in a court of Law. Some of the same folks that designed the "Tobacco Strategy" also lead the attacks on Climate Science, but the Oil Industry just hasn't been convicted of Fraud...Yet.
The Tobacco Industry was able to keep up its charade for almost half a century, before it web of deceit was finally uncovered, no telling how long the Oil industry will be able to do the same thing.
The Financial Industry was able to wreck the economy, with little to no legal ramifications, I imagine the energy industry is at least as well connected.
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jdc17327

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:06:33 AM
okay great
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tampacrvdriver

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2012 12:01:13 AM
Good read.
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SparkieMi

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:59:47 PM
Interesting..
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njerald

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:59:24 PM
What drivel.....
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DustyHorse

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:59:13 PM
I hope the carbon bubble bursts soon.
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Dodge_Me

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:58:10 PM
Interesting
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Wierbe

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:57:29 PM
Nice.
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Throroughbred

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:57:28 PM
There is NO globAl warming or climate change, whatever you want to cAll it. Another snake oil sAlesman at it Along with Al Gore.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:56:47 PM
So was little red riding hood.
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JesseJack52

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:54:28 PM
Good reading.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:52:14 PM
Here is my take on this 1.If we could see the world with a particularly illuminating set of spectacles = Rose colored glasses. 2. “The U.S. and Canada are virtually snow-free and cloud-free, which is extremely rare for a January day. = Don’t look at the record cold and earliest snow falls in Europe at the same time. 3. It was nothing but a mash-up of long-since-disproved arguments by people who turned out mostly not to be climate scientists at all, quoting other scientists who immediately said their actual work showed just the opposite. = Believe my scientists and ignore the fact that the hockey stick graph was a result of bad math, ignore the fact the “hot spot in the troposphere is not there as predicted and ignore the fact that none of the climate models have been even close. We also need to ignore the fact that most of the authors of the IPCC’s final report where NOT climate scientists.
4. At the last Republican debate in Florida, Rick Santorum insisted that he should be the nominee because he’d caught on earlier than Newt or Mitt to the global warming “hoax.” = Don’t look to closely at Al Gore he’s our man.
5. It’s no secret where this denialism comes from: the fossil fuel industry pays for it. (Of the 16 authors of the Journal article, for instance, five had had ties to Exxon.)
=. Scientists who use climate change to explain environmental changes improve their chances of getting research grants from foundations, corporations – and US government programs that budget a whopping $6.5 billion for global warming in 2007. They also increase the likelihood of getting headlines and quotes in news stories: "Climate change threatens extinction of rare frogs, scientist says." Climate disaster skeptics face an uphill battle on grants, headlines and quotes.
I could go on but I think I have made my point.
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tippybuddy

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:51:32 PM
very good
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Beaveronparade

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:39:11 PM
Very interesting. Definitely need more information to form an opinion though.
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FrankTA2

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:38:26 PM
Cars are polluting less & less.
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ysmc

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:36:36 PM
Gore wants to make money from carbon dioxide. Does he plan to charge plants and vegetables for using it?
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JCS319

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:33:10 PM
It's certainly understandable why the energy companies are funding the climate deniers - what's harder to understand is why the morons (many of whom have posted here) continue to believe this BS.
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feistyfella

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:32:27 PM
nice
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C.Carpets

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:24:11 PM
Back in the 70's they were telling us an Ice Age was coming. Weather here on Earth changes ALL THE TIME! And the SUN has more to do with it than anything else. And there hasn't been ANY Global Warming in 10 years. These morons tell us the Earth is in danger from too many cow farts, and carbon dioxide which we all exhale. Moronic BS.
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EVBuddy

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:22:42 PM
Our body is based on Carbon
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mstearno

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:20:11 PM
if its so warm hows come Alaska couldn't get oil shipped in?
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FlogNut

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:15:44 PM
More BS from one of the High Priests of Global Warming.
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Holly123

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:15:40 PM
I can't imagine this happening. Fact or fiction?
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bif65

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:11:22 PM
ok
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theschmuck

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:09:07 PM
I'll pass on this article and go to something interesting.
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livedream

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:07:52 PM
This (from the article) is also the reason we are paying so much for gasoline:
"It’s no secret where this denialism comes from: the fossil fuel industry pays for it. (Of the 16 authors of the Journal article, for instance, five had had ties to Exxon.) Writers from Ross Gelbspan to Naomi Oreskes have made this case with such overwhelming power that no one even really tries denying it any more. The open question is why the industry persists in denial in the face of an endless body of fact showing climate change is the greatest danger we’ve ever faced.
Why doesn’t it fold the way the tobacco industry eventually did? Why doesn’t it invest its riches in things like solar panels and so profit handsomely from the next generation of energy? As it happens, the answer is more interesting than you might think.
Part of it’s simple enough: the giant energy companies are making so much money right now that they can’t stop gorging themselves. ExxonMobil, year after year, pulls in more money than any company in history. Chevron’s not far behind. Everyone in the business is swimming in money."
IT'S JUST PURE GREED.
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freerobert

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:07:47 PM
No dought about all the things going on. Mother earth is trying to take care of herself and doing a lot of adjusting. Now, how many times before this also happened through millions of years.
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craigsfrank

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:07:44 PM
HMMMMM...... Yawn......
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billy44bo

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:06:58 PM
The sky is falling the sky is falling
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Lukus

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:03:50 PM
OK
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crowefamily1

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:02:53 PM
didn't see this coming.
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John747

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 11:02:33 PM
The author of this article is in lockstep with Al Gore when it comes to "Global Warming." This is an opinion piece presenting his side of the story.
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gumbyrex

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 10:58:39 PM
I'm on the fence with this article. I need more information before I form an opinion.
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carman11

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 10:56:47 PM
This article is so full of bull. Is this the best we can put out there for us to read???
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ratones1

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 10:51:35 PM
INTERESTING...
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mrreferee

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2012 10:49:49 PM
makes one thing, for sure...
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