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UPDATE 1-Shell to pay $19.5 mln for California violations

Reuters -- California AG investigated 1,000 Shell gasoline stations

* Shell failed to maintain gasoline tanks properly -AG

* Shell admits no liability, pleased to reach settlement

OAKLAND, Calif., Nov 6 (Reuters) - California was awarded $19.5 million in a settlement against Royal Dutch Shell Plc's (RDSa.L) U.S. unit for not storing fuel properly at filling stations in the state, Attorney General Jerry Brown said on Friday.

"Shell Oil company disregarded the state's underground fuel storage and hazardous waste laws, committing hundreds of environmental violations at its gasoline stations across California," Brown said in a statement.

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Submitted Nov 07, 2009 By: liltruckman

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RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,673 Points:865,095 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 11:15:46 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse Hopefully Shell has cleaned up their act.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:1,610 Points:406,450 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 7:16:25 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Shell should pay more than the $19,500,000 fine. They should pay additional penalties.
jeromehasbargen Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,645 Points:327,855 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 5:44:24 PM Ignore jeromehasbargen Report Abuse It is good that they should pay for their errors.
BEngr All-Star Author Illinois Posts:878 Points:446,805 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:25:46 PM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse I wonder why it took the State of California so long before they took legal action? Now the question is when will they get the money?
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:4,200 Points:1,664,045 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:11:18 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse and we will pay that fine in price hike
craveninnj Sophomore Author New Jersey Posts:110 Points:22,700 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:58:32 PM Ignore craveninnj Report Abuse and the gas prices soar... exxon's will likely follow suit as well
DFleming Veteran Author Alberta Posts:487 Points:101,160 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:58:28 PM Ignore DFleming Report Abuse That's a drop in the bucket compared to fixing the problem
ramboTX Champion Author Dallas Posts:3,399 Points:662,290 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:57:06 PM Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse Sure, Exxon still hasn't paid there millions in fines for the Exxon Valdez.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:10,455 Points:2,049,155 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:55:36 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse That should be worth a quarter at the pump!
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:3,042 Points:648,530 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:52:06 PM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse When a company gets a government fine, they pass that fine on to the customers by raising their prices. Subsequently, all others in that field will see a reason to also raise their prices, thereby scoring a bigger profit for no reason at all.
garman87 All-Star Author Austin Posts:650 Points:1,341,720 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:50:10 PM Ignore garman87 Report Abuse Finally good news for California.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:4,565 Points:1,327,640 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:47:51 PM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse We let foreign companies dictate the way we live.
threewheeler Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,528 Points:113,735 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:45:37 PM Ignore threewheeler Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon
janctx Champion Author Lubbock Posts:1,969 Points:689,770 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:43:13 PM Ignore janctx Report Abuse bad for Shell good for Cali
guyincognitoNY Champion Author New York Posts:2,504 Points:506,085 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:43:00 PM Ignore guyincognitoNY Report Abuse this is why calif. should be paying a dollar more a gallon then the rest of the u.s.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,254 Points:828,825 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:38:26 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse Hefty fine, but not enough to balance the budget.
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,343 Points:552,085 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:37:16 PM Ignore CISA Report Abuse Appears as thought this is a legitimate resolution. Usually, Brown has an agenda he's promoting.
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:3,803 Points:616,095 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:36:30 PM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse My guess would be that it would be easy to violate hundreds of environmental regulations in California.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,159 Points:1,449,330 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:32:51 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse A drop in the bucket compared to last years profits from gouging.
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,801 Points:543,925 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:29:59 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Wonder if Shell will pay or choose not to like Exxon hasn't paid on the Valdez yet. OF COURSE Shell won't admit any liability; the oil companies hardly ever do, nor the big corporations in-general.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,256 Points:489,205 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:26:11 PM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse They will raise fuel prices to pay for this.
DellDude2 Champion Author Nashville Posts:3,066 Points:975,335 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:21:07 PM Ignore DellDude2 Report Abuse Wonder if someone sicked Erin Brockovich on them?
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:3,299 Points:1,029,050 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:20:09 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse Dirty bums!
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,506 Points:45,340 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:13:52 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse ARCO was hit with a similar fine a few years ago. Did their prices go up? They are still the cheapest stations in California. When a hospital is fined for doing things wrong do their rates go up. I guess you wouldn't want them to be fined.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:6,393 Points:1,350,985 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:07:24 PM Ignore lpj Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon !!!
lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:3,153 Points:621,510 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:06:11 PM Ignore lindact Report Abuse This is pocket change to them.
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,475 Points:762,490 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:58:09 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Even though it is just we will pay for it at the pumps
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,851 Points:1,013,915 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:52:19 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse They got off to easy.
dhnbBUG Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,528 Points:596,395 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:51:25 PM Ignore dhnbBUG Report Abuse Yet another good reason to shift away from oil.
dopster Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,297 Points:1,219,435 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:50:00 PM Ignore dopster Report Abuse So you think it's OK to leak gasoline into ground water???
repeater1 Champion Author Kansas Posts:2,572 Points:1,228,410 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:44:16 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Here goes the price up again in order to recover the costs their own negligence caused.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,509 Points:349,675 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:44:04 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse It may not get California out of her mess, but it'll help. ;-)
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,408 Points:620,950 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:40:43 PM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse Won't get CA of of it's mess.
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,350 Points:480,535 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:38:50 PM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse 19.5 mill.....a drop in the oil bucket.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,971 Points:1,393,535 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:33:34 PM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse I have no response to this.
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,206 Points:926,135 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:30:27 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse The article stated: "Apart from paying $19.5 million in penalties to government agencies and legal costs, Shell must take a series of steps to improve spill and alarm monitoring and hazardous waste management at its stations, according to the judgment signed in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland." It would appear that it is a fair settlement, providing that Shell makes the corrections ordered. I suspect that the EPA may get involved later if it is found that damage was done to the environment.
SUPERQUACK All-Star Author Sacramento Posts:605 Points:816,860 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:28:45 PM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse agree with fx rider94
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,816 Points:945,500 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:28:01 PM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse What does Shell care?
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:1,500 Points:383,155 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:27:27 PM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse at 19.5 million they are getting by CHEAP why cloud the picture by admitting liabilty - smart move on Shell's part. The fine should have been 195 million (California needs the cash)
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,810 Points:558,875 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:26:47 PM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Costly mistake, yes we will all pay in the end.
FXRider94 Sophomore Author New Jersey Posts:126 Points:211,025 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:21:15 PM Ignore FXRider94 Report Abuse This is just a drop in the bucket, for Shell. They'll make it up, by raising prices a few cents.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,270 Points:923,180 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:17:48 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Good job reuters. I only wonder just exactly how much is $19.5 'min'!! I think their reporting is about as good as their editorial capabilities! And, Shell has gotten away very very cheap. Who is in their pocket?
Paw5X Champion Author Gary Posts:4,944 Points:1,414,035 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:15:22 PM Ignore Paw5X Report Abuse They will just raise their prices to recoup their loses!
civicdutie Champion Author Rochester Posts:1,909 Points:384,125 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:12:47 PM Ignore civicdutie Report Abuse Thats not enough. They should of forced them to sell their gasoline to the public at no profit for a year (no profit for Shell, not the individual stations)
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:6,718 Points:736,360 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:12:02 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse so if their answer govermint run gas stations; few and far between, with super cleanliness and costs passed on to both fueling motorists and the tax payers?
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:1,633 Points:325,590 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:11:12 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse they need to pay more than that for it
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:1,633 Points:325,590 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:10:45 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse this wont really be much of a dent for them
TECH500 Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,141 Points:654,655 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:10:31 PM Ignore TECH500 Report Abuse Thats like a slap on the wrist for Shell.
LuckyD43 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:12,779 Points:1,428,300 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:07:06 PM Ignore LuckyD43 Report Abuse A $19.5 mln fine does not worry Shell in the slightest. They know they can very easily pass it down to the consumer for any excuse whatsoever.
Sam195 Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:2,375 Points:453,905 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:05:51 PM Ignore Sam195 Report Abuse Good old Jerry Brown, the hack man.