Ranga

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2009 4:05:08 PM
Nitrogen enrichment of gasoline is absolutely unbelievable. This is just a commercial gimmick. If they have added a detergent to the gasoline they should say so. Adding a cleaning agent to gasoline is not necessary. There are several gasoline vendors who claim that their gasoline has cleaning power. I have never had a problem of gunk build up in any of my cars.
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Lonewolftx

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 12:48:17 PM
Hope it really helps.
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MikeM777

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 12:26:07 PM
Here's my first take on this story. First I thought of one of the strongest cleaners in my house - ammonia. It is basically just hydrogen and nitrogen. Another good cleaner laying around are soaps and shampoo which often contain ammonium lauryl sulfate. It contains lots of oxygen, hydrogen and some more nitrogen. Yet a valuable source of nitrogen for my garden is manure. So I think the great Shell scientists are making manure tea, adding some shampoo and ammonia then blending into their already over priced gas. Lastly they feed us the neutered manure.;) Think I need to patent this!
P.S. Ammonia can be used in existing engines and only exhaust is nitrogen and water. Was in use alot during the first half of the 20th century.
[Edited by: MikeM777 at 3/12/2009 12:32:14 PM EST]
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esquared

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:16:43 AM
I'll have to be convinced that I get better gas mileage without doing more damage to the environment before I "shell" out extra for nitrogen....
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LadyTigress

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:11:34 AM
well.....something else I'm going to have to look into before I buy
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AL_Crazy_Gal

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Montgomery
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:07:36 AM
Sounds like a load of crap. Shell gasoline doesn't fall into my expensometer anyway. They priced themselves out of my market a long time ago.
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JPGKC

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:07:25 AM
More smoke and mirrors...
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TBRR

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:03:50 AM
lets see, all tests by shell, shell sels the product, shell brags about their product and how good it is. smell a rat in this one as just another way to boost prices. had a 72 honda civic that ran for 235,000 miles and never had a gunk build up. one more gimmick, they hope the public will take hook, line and sinker.
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la90042

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 11:02:51 AM
yes what about emmissions
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murdershewrote

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:58:30 AM
they sure a making a big whoop about...i'll give it a while
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ccycles

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:57:48 AM
wow super duper gas
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westover

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:55:02 AM
Mike911 is right. What about NOX?
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TubaPete

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:54:25 AM
And just how much problem is "gunk" in a modern engine anyway? Didn't most of this problem go away when they stopped producing leaded gasoline?
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mike911

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:51:55 AM
What about NOX emissions!
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carrollcreek

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:51:50 AM
Is this the same as adding a NOS system to the grocery getter?
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napermike79

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:48:24 AM
New car only. It could loosen up too much gunk and clog your filters and injectors in an older car.
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puzzledperson

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:46:01 AM
This method might be ok but it will probably be expensive.
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Rageagainsttm

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:39:23 AM
this could be a good idea
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Somis1

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:38:19 AM
Who wrote all that--Shell?
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aubelis

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:36:51 AM
Watch your engine go BOOM!
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Japsmith

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:36:29 AM
Nitrogen enriched gasoline is another excuse to raise gas prices.
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egd

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:32:29 AM
a gimmick let's see some independent tests of the value
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CharlieC08

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:29:25 AM
Sounds like a shell game to me
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rrobnett

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:28:25 AM
It's a scam.
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w4kh

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:27:13 AM
The government standard for gasoline requires a certain amount of nitrogen enrichment... Shell is just adding a tad more and making a big deal about it.
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travchap

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:26:57 AM
It is interesting to hear that gasoline comes from the cheapest supplier rather than directly from the oil company.
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dts1952

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:25:38 AM
lets see I buy some of this and put in my gas tank adn then add some ethanol to it and drive around and save on gas..I wonder??/lol
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lindact

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:24:56 AM
Sounds like a gimmick...
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eerfan58

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:24:47 AM
complete garbage
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alphascan

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:24:13 AM
A little Jose Cuervo might do the same thing AND make the car run better.
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94Vol

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:23:58 AM
Hasn't raised the price here; YET!
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:23:07 AM
Nitrogen or NOT - will NOT buy any expensive Shell gasoline.
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ElKamino

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:23:06 AM
I have known a few local oil jobbers and they have revealed oil's big secret. You should know that service stations buy from whichever local oil jobber offers the lowest price regardless of brand. And the oil jobbers buy from which ever distributor offer the lowest price regardless of brand. Therefore, it is a huge mistake to believe that you are getting Shell formaulated gas at a Shell station. Same goes for Exxon and everything else.
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JunKB4U

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:18:51 AM
Oh, so they pumped more air inside their gas?
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beanDE

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:18:05 AM
Wouldn't alcohol do the same thing?
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wally28546

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:17:10 AM
Nitrogen does not burn. Sounds like a cleaver way to add a filler in to the mix
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antur

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:16:32 AM
BS
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CamryCheapster

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:15:37 AM
I even looked up the Shell website and was disappointed by the lack of any substantive information on just what this new "Nitro-Miracle" was.
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jmg144

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:15:11 AM
Shell claims that there gas stations switched at the beginning of March - no difference in pricing the initially two weeks of this month
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148366

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:14:49 AM
Wait until we see the price
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Marty_P

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Baton Rouge
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:14:32 AM
A. Enriching Shell's bottom line.
Do the math: more inert ingredients (additives) per gallon = less active ingredient (fuel) per gallon.
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grubbie

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:11:16 AM
What is it...more expensive.
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jarrjazz1

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:09:32 AM
So can someone compare this with "Techron"?
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Helms

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:08:43 AM
no thanks!!!
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rugbyphil

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:07:55 AM
Watch out for the Shell press release!
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StickySam

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:07:00 AM
The benefit is worth the cost to Shell, they are not thinking of the driving public`s wallet. Shell already have this in the UK, it really does give more mpg and better fuel burning.
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BigBrat

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:06:53 AM
Cleaner burning fuel ????
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:06:38 AM
it might keep the motor cleaner, but is it also making it weaker by eating away at metal
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mdmtnbiker

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:06:38 AM
Sounds like that was written by someone in the Shell marketing department.
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rerosales

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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2009 10:05:58 AM
Hope it translates into more efficient fuel usage.
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